I am getting you the expansion, just remind me at launch. 
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You have 1 character to 100 from that class you changed A spec which excels in HT/Speed to a uber boss build B. Now when you need to do HT/Speed, suddenly the efficiency is handicapped.
So you either:
- Farm enough HT mats then swap (which leads to stale ways of forced gaming) OR
- Accept the fact your are handicapped at efficiency
Therefore the best solution is to level up another same class, 3 benefits:
- Richer experiences from leveling
- Less clump in inventory / shared gears
- Incentives to play MORE
I read before commenting. You are not getting the picture.
Why wasting time on a forum and to change a business model for a AAA game where clearly its impractical. Metrics from ARPG has proven seasonal resets > higher amount of playerbase. It just happens doesnât suit your style.
Again, these type of games excels at the PROCESS OF FINDING, not owning these items. It doesnt matter if you own 20 UUs, its all sparks eventually. Do you stop eating food because you ate yesterday? No, because hunger is a demand. In these arpg, dopamine from item drop is a demand like hunger. Now if you eat too much, you fast hence in arpg, when dopamine from rare loot drop stops giving gratification, you log off and divert your attention elsewhere.
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I live in the Eternal Realm. I make a new character for the Seasonal Server, finish the Journey in a week, then back to my Eternal grind for the rest of the year. It only takes about 30 to 40(RNG) hour for completing the Season Journey from level 1.
You have 1 character to 100 from that class you changed A spec which excels in HT/Speed to a uber boss build B. Now when you need to do HT/Speed, suddenly the efficiency is handicapped.
You can always change your spec any time, I change my spec 10 times at least with same character in one season. D4 suppose to give us a build loader so changing spec by level another character is the most inefficient way to play.
Richer experiences from leveling
No one in this game find killing Duriel 400x is rich experience.
Less clump in inventory / shared gears
The inventory problem should not exist at first in a full price game, it is Blizzard programming issue
Incentives to play MORE
Player have no incentive to play more repeating activities.
Why wasting time on a forum and to change a business model for a AAA game where clearly its impractical. Metrics from ARPG has proven seasonal resets > higher amount of playerbases. It just happens doesnât suit your style and are you the majority?
This is a consumer driven market, the AAA game is not the one dictate how we spend money.
Again, these type of games EXCELS at the process of finding, not owning these items. It doesnt matter if you own 20 UUs, its all sparks eventually. Do you stop eating food because you ate yesterday? No, because hunger is a demand. In these arpg, dopamine from item drop is a demand like hunger. Now if you eat too much, you fast hence in arpg, when dopamine from rare loot drop stops giving gratification, you log off and skip a season.
If I eat the same bread everyday like all D4 players doing then all restaurant will be closed.
I have already make a long post if you scroll up. I will not reply if the topic is repeated.
My final word is, if there are player donât like to create new character at season start, it is their choice and others players should not criticise them or ask them play other game or Eternal realm. Blizzard release lesser content in Eternal to the same paid customer. Also there are many battlepass purchaser who not able to utilize their points in Eternal realm, which they are the premium customer to blizzard.
I will not reply further as these just repeat and repeat. We players like to play the game the way we want, you always have the choice to create new characters and not to ask others follow your playstyle. Except you worry major players dont join you?
Duriel is NOT the only content and you are NOT required to farm UUs
Looks like these kind of ARPG doesnt suit you. End of discussion.
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Duriel is required because many players will have due to blizzard flaw target loot system. Not because you need that for any content. Try to get first place at Gauntlet or beat highest tier in PIT next season without UBER. You can always play at noob level by not having Uber as your choice. End of Discussion.
These people purchased the game or were given a copy and now they want to change it.
Would they go to a football game just to complain and cry that it was not a baseball game?
To be fair, they have rights to demand improvements but not affecting how its operated fundamentally. We can request style changes of these football games but if requesting NFL to adopt kicking the ball rules like ALF (Australian Football), its another story.
When NBA changed to small ball, a lot of fans were hugely disappointed. But that didnt stop NBA from gaining profits and player salaries rose astronomically. It all depends where majority of the business and mainstream demand & potential demand is at.
This 2 modes eternal and season is a copy pasta from D3 ⌠The devs just take it as gospel and implement it this way âŚ
I like leveling in other games. In Diablo IV, it is more of a chore, and just not fun to do. The experience of running through the game is just so monotonous.
I also think they should allow the seasonal mechanics into eternal. Although, one way to implement it is to have you do it as normal (with a new character from scratch) and if you beat it, it now unlocks for your main character. As well, I would let you have access to be able to run a season from the past at any time after, so that you donât miss out for various reasons. This way the seasonal mechanics actually grow the game.
one play RPG to enjoy the leveling.
one should play arcade game to enjoy being OP.
The irony of this is it has backfired even more
Itâs reduced the gameplay/climbing interaction to rubble and has pushed everything into the âfinal tierâ of doing things
Which in terms takes longer and is more exhausting for the player that they precisely wanted to make the game more accessible for, isnât it ? 
In other words - in pursuit for providing difficulty guarantees they lost guarantees of content feasibility, or even simpler
Precisely because the game is âgood to beatâ as opposed to âgood to playâ most of the content remains unlocked for the majority 
OP and others agreeing, you guys bought the wrong type of game. What you want is an MMOARPG. This is an ARPG, with a few mmo style elements. This will not change, doesnât matter hiw much you cry. This is what arpgs are and will be forever. Deal. With. It. Or just leave.
No one is asking for an MMO .And not every arpg has resets so enough with that lie. Only D2 clones do this BS and even some of them dont do resets eg: Grim Dawn
This is a public forum, you dont own it. Players who bought the game have every right to use it to request changes and there is nothing you can do about it no matter how much you cry. Deal. With.It. Or just leave.
Heck of a gimmick. Been around for over two decades. Every major and popular ARPG does it and they all get plenty of players doing it.
Itâs not going anywhere.
Not wanting to play seasons isnât outside the box thinking.
Major ARPG you mean D3 released in 2012 and POE released in 2009? How many players they have now? What is a purpose of discuss this old game mechanic in 2024 when we are at the age of player library full of good titles and D4 is in Microsoft game pass now?
I saw a lot of objections in the forum about removing the character reset mechanism and referring to decade-old game D3 and POE. I always suspect those are the concern of grandma and grandpa who canât move on, thanks for your two decades of gaming experience to confirm my thesis.
We are in the year 2024 where D4 is in Game Pass and Blizzard new president was the head of Call of Duty. It is generally perceived Blizzard battlepass system is not as good as Call of Duty for whatever reason. Sweeping change is expected. Fingers cross.
If you worry about the changes, you can always play D3 in Atari ST. If you get bored, remember to swap your 3.5 inch D3 game disk with POE disk.
I will not further reply this thread, as it is clearly a different opinions between modern gamers and the baby boomers. You can always hold on to your opinion and we will see how the train moves forward.
âWake up, move forward or go homeâ - Donald John Trump, 1 April 24
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Thousands of players at any given time.
A rank 76 game in Steam Chart Decades old Age pf Empire has 12K players which much more than the thousand players. Hope you understand the concept of minority opinions.
This is my last comment as I think this argument between the current generation and baby boomers will never end as we hold different views.
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We got the same type of pushback when WASD was suggested
âThis is an arpg. Go play an mmo.â
Most people now play with WASD because point and click is far less efficient than WASD . POE2 will have it as will every ARPG going forward
To all of you stubborn people that fought us and tried to run us off over thatâŚ
YOUâRE WELCOME! 
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