Duriel mats once again

this game will always be broken untill they fix duriel mat farming.
The droprate is way too much time consuming, the whole helltides, Malphas, Grigoire farm needs to be completely revisited.

its so boring and annoying to pop a duriel with 0 drops that it makes you just log out.
its not fun to do this chore. This isnt an MMO.

Yes, “Duriel Uber farming” is no fun.

Normal Uniques attached to the Boss Ladder is fine though.

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Mats will come from more sources this season, but you may have to still farm some. Just learn to deal with it or don’t farm mats.

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Do what I am doing, pretted Duriel don´t exist. It looks Ubers will be much weaker after itm rework so now I care even less.

But yeah I would also like some big change with Duriel.

You dont need to farm him to get the best gear, you know it, right? You can get the best gear right now (3 affixes rng) from the new patch onward from obols, helltides, pit runs, nmd etc.

Season 4 starts Tuesday with these changes:

  • Boss mats can drop from a bunch of different sources including random packs of loot goblins that drop tons of boss mats when you kill them. On the PTR I got 3 Gregoire, 2 beats in the ice and 2 zir summons just from stuff that dropped in NMDs
  • All the bosses in the boss ladder on the way to duriel now have a chance to drop Ubers.
  • There’s a new boss with the same loot table as duriel, Andariel, this has different mats to summon. Although it’s still the same grind but at least it’s a new fight.
  • Tormented bosses. These will be lvl 200 so a much harder fight to keep things interesting. They also drop a ton more loot.

I’d say over all the boss ladder grind is going to feel less grindy next season and with the pit it gives you some to do to break up the Uber grind fatigue.

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Ok, than dont do duriel. Uncommon uniqies have a high drop rate, they arnt even rare. You dont need any of them because they are FOMO nice to haves.

I wouldnt mind them droping mat requirements but the drop rates would need to significantly be reduced.

Get rid of Mats entirely. Uber Bosses have chance to spawn at end of Legion Raid, killing a World Boss, Hell Tides, in place of NMD Bosses, and end of Pit.

Then people would complain they had reason to do HT, legion, wb and nmd. They would call a foul for “gatekeeping”.

The only reason ppl do uber bosses is for the high chance of getting uncommon uniques. People wouldnt do Duriel if it wasnt rewarding. The biggest issue is shakos are to common so people expect them.

S4 is going to be epic because a normal shako isnt the best shako.

You seem to have missed the memo =)

We can target farm Andariel in S4, requiring mats from Icebeast and Vyr =)

So its a little different, but still a similar loop ! lol

Totally not fun. If the egg parts weren’t so shifty to get it wouldn’t be too bad now. 4 parts & always one you cant change missing drives me nutz. Will be better next week.

Good thing they have made a heap of changes for Season 4. However, they still haven’t resolved the issue where running in a Group is four times as efficient for boss runs.

You still are giving a reason to run that content except you are removing it being target farmed in a loop. This makes Uber Bosses feel like a far more natural things rather than an activity you specifically have to do. The odd thing is that how you current acquire those Uber mats is through ridiculously easy content. This method allows you to play whatever content you want to play.

To promote diversity, you can add a stacking buff instead that increases the chance of an Uber Duriel/Andariel spawn gained from completing all content types. While you would still then be able to spawn Uber Duriel/Andariel just running NMD, or Hell Tides, or Legion Raids etc., the chance would be a lot lower than if you were to run all once to gain their respective Blessings.

Additionally, all content should be as scalable as NMD.

But they are adding a new endgame boss, surrrrrely they will drop different items and not have the EXACT same drops as duriel, as that would be suuuuuper lazy.

Uber bosses have their own unique loot tables and then a chance to drop an Uber unique. This has been the case for a while now.

They added andariel who has the exact same drops as duriel.

True, sorry misread your question.

Yes same loot table as Duriel. Would have been nice if the unique drop table was different I agree. However, the fact bosses have loot tables is good and the big two are targeted for Uber uniques mostly.

No longer completely necessary in Season 4, as boss mats will drop off elites.

Ubers as well in S4 (at a lower chance than Duriel and Andariel)

They pretty much solved the “need” to farm duriel with the following in S4:

  1. At 95+ all items are 925 ilvl
  2. Boss mats can drop from anywhere basically
  3. Andariel has same loot table as Duriel, essentially equalizing the value of other boss materials
  4. Uber bosses now give 5x loot for 3x cost
  5. Uber uniques can drop from any lvl 55+ mob in WT4.
  6. Uber uniques have a chance to drop from the boss ladder (Zir/Beast/etc).

All that combined I think mandatory Duriel farming will be a thing of the past and instead people will just drain their Duriel/Andy mats once they build up enough then go back to Pit/Helltides.

Like the rest of the people in the thread, you treat this as if it’s bad.

You farm mats before and only 2 bosses mattered, the rest of the mats were completely useless.

Now, those other mats you had loads of because of no reason to spend them… come in handy on the one single thing the people in this thread are asking for. Basically doubled your Uber chances without adding much of anything. Then you have mats dropping more often, that’s an even bigger thing to help your Uber chances.

But you guys can all keep complaining about it. LMAO

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