ITT:
“NUMBERS ARE UP AT THE START OF THE SEASON!! SEE??? D4 IS GOOD?”“”
Everyone else:
: john travolta pulp fiction gif:
D4 is a steaming pile of garbage.
If D4 was good, every lead developer position wouldn’t have been replaced, canned, or moved on. This is what happens when your game is objectively “bad.”
This thread is insane cope. “D4 is one of the best ARPGs” is a pure nonsense statement given the ARPG genre has about 3 games in the actual space at this point.
In a race with 3 participants, everyone gets a medal.
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Expansions will always show higher numbers than seasons.
Every season bar the expansion season the numbers have gone up
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I think a lot of the negativity that gets thrown at D4 comes mainly from expectations that people have based on the enormous resources Blizzard has at their disposal. They see smaller companies like GGG and EHG crank out large amounts of content in relatively short amounts of time meanwhile D4 development is much slower and even when content is dropped it is generally smaller in scale and usually seems half baked.
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Should re-title this OP
“diablo 4 bad” is the silent majority
as the people who have long since quit is vast
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Are you serious? It sold millions of copies and now only a few thousand play and that’s an upward motion? Lol
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This is what we call in my country the OP ran into the sausage woods, with an open mouth. 
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The game LITERALLY has no endgame after you have built your character. lol
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I mean the game is pretty terrible. Probably one of the worst games I’ve ever kept playing.
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It’s bad in some ways and good in other ways. Both are possible at the same time.
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Yeah it’s pretty a bad game. We do the exact same thing every torment level.
Helltides, seasonal activity, pits, bosses.
That’s it, same thing every torment. Once you’ve done it on T1 you’re done with the game since there is nothing new to do beyond Torment 1.
The game is always too easy, lawn mower simulator, it’s boring. I finished out S10 in record time. The game gets faster and easier every patch. Ufff… I hope they fix this crap soon, get more towards how season zero felt, with plenty of early/mid game to be had.
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Steam can be bots and paid reviews and do you really believe companies dont do that(not saying blizzard is for sure) but I do find it odd how those numbers are great when all review numbers elsewhere are horrible. Doesnt add up. Metacritic still a 2.6/10…
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The anti-hero of games, where a low score means its a good product
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You said
they don’t. It’s an easy to understand fact.
But even if we ignore the VoH and only take the seasons it sits at around 38k players since the last 3 seasons.
That is also not “growth”.
As i said, many discounts on steam and every discount lures in new people. Yet the overall playercount stays the same. Which means for every new player an old player leaves.
Ultimatly this will end up in decline as the pool of new players shrinks with every new player that joined.
To rely on retail sales is not what blizz is aiming at, they do not want to make money on that traditional way, they wanna squezze out MTX in a Game as a service model. So they need player retention, and they clearly do not have that.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right about it being a minority, but if I’m willing to accept that, it’s with the caveat that most players don’t interact with the game deeply or long enough to appreciate how broken, poorly designed, and shallow it is.
It is a bad game if you want anything out of it besides jump in/jump out, seasonal gameplay.
And it’s not silly to want that as many previous looter ARPGs both within and outside the franchise were like that, whether by design or just from entertaining replayability.
Long story short: game is fine for weekend warriors or blowing off some steam but beyond that, it’s a bad game.
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If its a minority its because the players all left. lol.
Look at concurrent players in the first few seasons and then recently.
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You know there is a “FREE” week until 2nd of October right? That means that even when the game its free on Steam it cant even surpass it peak with the expansion 1 year ago that was 55k
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I think the problem with D4 is that it’s the same skill system, gameplay of generator/spender/cooldown and itemization from D3 which were already disliked so people say it’s a reskin.
It needed something new and fresh or return to D1-2 roots.
I have no idea what you’re smoking, but this game is garbage. On its absolute best days it barely claws its way up to mid-tier, and even that’s being generous. It got obliterated by its main competitor, while GGG once again turned Blizzard’s clown fiesta into free wins. The amount of copium you’d need to crank out this nonsense could fuel a small nation — unless you’re just trolling, which honestly would be the only respectable explanation
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As you so eloquently describe the problem, it’s not a vocal minority it’s the abandoned majority that’s really speaking loudest….even if they’re no longer speaking at all.
Negative criticism is usually than indifference and we see this constantly in modern gaming. A review bombed game can be turned around, but it takes a lot of well thought out developer resources to do it and with so much competition in the entertainment space, there are many you simply will never win back once lost.
I’d say the last 3 reworks have been failures as reworks in that they’re no more popular and arguably less popular than before the rework. That doesn’t inspire confidence that this crew can turn it around, even if they’re given the appropriate resources.
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