I just easily killed tormented Duriel on my sorc with just 15 level glyphs and level 5 masterwork, what I did was roll a necro.
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Still till that point the person i was replying to said people said here Sorc is weak. But literally nobody said here Sorc is weak. Devil is in the details and precision.
But to your comment: So in the end Sorc isnât weak. Since it has the âinfinite/immortal flameshieldâ as you also admitted. Yeah that literally every build requires it to have it is an other question and other issue. But the fact is, Sorc is freaking strong. You just have to use the META.
AgainâŚwe need to be precise here.
Bulwark? Surely you mean Debilitating Roar.
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Thanks for letting me know what the default skill is now â sorry, my info is a bit outdated as I donât play much D4 for the aforementioned reasons.
The point still stands though - In the end game, the classes have 1 or 2 defensives that you must take or else you lose. Boring design/skills as your âchoicesâ are illusionary. Itâs not a sorc thing, itâs a D4 thing and itâs bad.
UmâŚyou DO realize that the entire point of the game, as well as ARPGS in general, is to make your build around a couple of skills right? That means double, triple or quadruple dipping if you can to push the tougher content. If you werenât aware of this then welcome to the ARPG genre.
There are many builds that work in this game. But that comes with knowing HOW to make strong builds, which clearly you lack skill in.
Old Head Here. I do not play as a Wizard, I found a wand.
Max Life
Max Damage Percentage 45
Max life on hit 32
Is this an item, I should try to join discord to sell? Or is it a dime a dozen.
There are many builds that work in this game. But that comes with knowing HOW to make strong builds, which clearly you lack skill in.
Thatâs a really elitist way to act towards someone when the entirety of D4âs complexity is âchoose all % modifiers and not additive modifiersâ.
D4 people really like to think theyâre doing something special in a game with 1 endgame build for each class.
I guess this helps them cope with the fact that theyâre playing a myopic game.
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He was a jerk to me, so I was a jerk right back. Deal with it. 
And yet here you are. 
you definitely like pointless discussions about the ability to play on some class and some of your âownâ builds, Iâm asking you a direct and understandable question, what pit level did you complete on your âownâ sorc build this season?
All discussions that sorc can do the pit above the 90th level without endless flame shield are nonsense. Do you even play sorc this season?
no man, donât waste your time.
Urza thanks for the input. I played extensively in beta. During the beta, I was fortunate enough to dig deep into sorcs. I went pure lightning (Nova build). I know a lot of game changes have occurred between now and then. Quick question do you think at the highest tiers I can pass it without a cheat death? I am going to try to get better at kiting. (Old School EQ bard I hope to tap into that type of kiting.) I havenât been so lucky as to get an esadora cameo but I am progressing nicely. I am not near the endgame. After about two days I am 87. Fortunately, I had a couple days off from work to just play. Thank you for your input and I thank everyone for the posts regarding the state of the Sorceror.
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I wanted to make a lightning crackle build sometime but I never did so I cant say how far it can go but even pit 61 is really hard without ubers. I couldnt do it as Forb sorc.
My own guess and experience is that fireshield is now a mandatory skill for sorcs just for pits. There are so many ways to die its a godsend to have this skill to survive esp with extra duration.
My own experience with crackle energy is that chain lightning is the best skill to make them. You can make a gross number of them with it and its a fun skill. (this makes the lightning spear enchant interesting for you as you can make a zillion spears that stun everythang.)
The bonus to making off meta is your items should be cheap. If somebody gets a 4 greater or 3 greater cameo it shouldnt cost you that much to buy it as well as anything related to chain lightning. I have a +4 chain lightning glove you can haz. I think I have a cameo as well you can haz. Urza#1177 (can deliver in about 8 hours)
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Urza, thank you. I am going to grind. I am going to crackle. I even use the teleport crackle versus the defense. I am not at the pit yet. I still need to read up on the new things they added. I am a purest and I solo mostly. Right now I am doing nightmares, whisper runs, helltides and doing my best to get my reknown finished.
I am actually having a lot of fun. I did skip the campaign. I ran it too much in beta. Beta I burnt myself to the ground. I need to remember balance in all things. It is the main reason I just purchased the game on May 28 and just the standard version. I had preordered the ultimate but I got a little mad with the state of things and refunded. I knew I was returning but it was just a matter of when.
You know you cant attack without wand or Staff? What do you mean double tipping? Are you sure you understand what you are talking about? Why bother talk about level 70 pit? I already lvl 110. 38 post new player 
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Itâs the stuff of Carbot Animation - sorcerer gracefully dissecting endless fields of mobs with electric wire, biblical ice storms, Australian bush fires with the snap of a finger ⌠obliterated in an unexpected instant, vanishing in a mist, by a careless fart from a frolicking Treasure Goblin.
in a previous post you stated your information was outdated because you dont play d4. its not an elitist statement it is pointing out your ignorance.
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He wasnât responding to me. You should try reading and then thinking, youâre clearly doing one of the two â although Iâm not sure in what order.
Yesterday i tried something new. Everyone talked about flame shield and ice barrier, that why i remove them. I change my build to be only offence, remove all my def skills and put aspect where you get 40% dmg if you not have def skill in your tab, and maybe its something on me, but there was no difference in time that i killed boss in NMD 100 with my FO build. Is anyone tried too? Is this aspect not working or this 40% dmg is nothing?
what 6 skills did you use?
I mean there is a few details that spring to mind, this game does interconnect a fair bit, so unless you detail Character Sheet 1 with 2. Its hard to speculate where the problem is.
If i had to take a few guesses, x removed from sheet 1 and 2 = x so there was marginal and no notable output change. Did your attack rating change?
Cool you tried it, i saw that aspect last night and though about trying it sometime.
I used fire bolt, frozen orb, ice blades, lighting spear, meteor and inferno. I spam frozen orb and conjurations skill like normal FO build, and when inferno is on i start to spam meteorite and from ench slot frozen orb and etc.