Bugged Builds and the Future of Diablo 4

Overpowered does not mean bugged. When you create a topic, at the very least use the right terminology.

i dont think any of this is bugs

all of this is intentional

they buffed the heck out of overpower and then go and add banished lords tailsman fully understanding the interaction it will have with barbs

I think they were sick of the complaining about sorc and barb being weak, so they intentionally did things to make their dps insane

as for the unique pants on rogue… it MIGHT be a bug but devs have no interest in nerfing that when they know barbs are critting for hundreds of millions of damage in a single hit, so why go after a class that is hitting for only a fraction of that?

its actually crazy to say this after last season, but druid and necro are the weakest classes in the game

but,

all classes are overpowered for the content atm so nobody really notices. everything is S tier

Nerfs never helped a game ever. Answer is always buff. Game to easy BUFF mobs. One build outperforming buff others.
Nerfs have never promoted build diversity and made the game better.
And it is an endless cycle. Heck some games make big bank on that fact. Look at Destiny 2. They sell over priced expansions by nerfing what is best and putting some new OP weapon in their xpac. They started just nerfing like usually but learned it was a big selling point for their expansions and now do it on purpose.
Look at d4 look at all the nerfs. Can anyone say they have more options now than they did last season or at release? Nerfs do not work. Been proven over the past 20 years a nerf has never helped a game.

Very odd response considering you obviously do have the time to play and are playing. The whole job/life rant is pretty nonsensical. This applies to lots of people, not just you.

I’m with you. In the first season the Barber’s heart was nerfed. The combo points are clearly a bug, since the paragon frame gives us 1 extra combo point only in its effects. Now an item comes and gives you 23 points with damage and everything. What is the logic behind this. You spend hours testing your own build and something comes along and breaks everything. Why was Vuln nerfed and critical then. Wasn’t the idea multiple builds? Every 2 characters I meet I see a wizard with an electric ball. I don’t think that’s fun.

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This response is all over the forums to people. And it directly contradicts itself. No in fact he is not playing he is here posting on the forum. And that is what is nonsense.
The real thing is if you think the game is so good why are you posting here? If d4 was perfect Id be playing it and would never see this forum.
Oh and no I am not playing it. Season 2 hada bout 3 days of playtime before you maxed EVERYTHING. I played a little over a week helping friends get to the same point. I have played and cleared 5 other games since s2 came out and yes they are all garbage too. But because they are not franchises i give 2 cents about I do not post on their forums.

Exactly…the whole Point of the 1.2 Patch was to Stop the Power creep… that one IS more than Well documented…they even nerfed Mob health into oblivion to compensate for the Player loosing Power (vuln/crit Nerf). Yet Here WE are with some builds doing more DPS than ever… they wanted build diversity…yet Here WE are with everyone running BL, hota or rogue…and yet there are some knuckleheads pretending ITS all working as intended, when IT clearly Just IS Not…and the devs do absolutely nothing…thats embarassing AS IT gets…

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well rogues are hitting for 10bil dmg so not a fraction of barbs. the tibaults will bug is pretty bad. also i main a necro, wouldnt say my char is weak. i feel like im in a good place. i cruise through t100s really fast with no issues

  • Fixed an issue where Ball Lightning was dealing far more damage than intended.

Developer’s Note: Ball Lightning was dealing an unintended amount of damage because of its Enhanced upgrade. This bug fix returns the amount of damage done by this Skill to intended quantities.

Looks like your comment didn’t age well. Neither did anyone’s opinion that I was incorrect about my concerns.

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I approve of this necroed thread!

All ppl that said BL was not bugged please put your humble apologies here
BL confirmed bugged (Apologies requested) - PC General Discussion - Diablo IV Forums (blizzard.com).
Lets get at least 1 person adult enough to admit wronginess!

Thank you!!!

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Made me laugh WAY too hard. Thank you for that.

Who is forcing you to copy the top build of the moment?
I am a casual gamer. If I were still playing D4 I would like an option to play an OP build. If just to have a chance to find some gear for my other toons. Oh wait, D4 loot sucks at that too as loot is geared towards current toon wasn’t it?

Yes. There is very little reason to use one character to get gear for another. Mainly because the loot is at the level of the character that found it, so a lower level alt wouldn’t be able to use it until much later on anyways, and they would have likely found said item on their own by then.

Also, it’s not about playing something OP, it’s about something being so ungodly OP that its making the entire game arbitrary. Melting Wold Bosses in 3-5 seconds, destroying Legion Events to the point that no one else can even get a single hit in on anything, destroying all end game content so easily that it makes people flood the forums and complain that there is no end game content.

It’s bad for everyone, even the people that think they want an OP build. Being OP is fine, being #1 is great and I would be a complete moron if I didn’t think that some build is going to do better than everything else, that’s just the way it will be. But at the cost of the entire game’s integrity? No. That type of build, that level of OP, needs to be re-balanced. But if the Devs are too afraid to do that… well… then the game is just stuck in this exact loop of certain builds making everything arbitrary. That’s not fun, and even those that argue they find that fun, I promise they don’t. They’re just too out of touch with themselves to understand. Because those same people that claim it’s “fun to wreck the game like this” are also the same people that complain on the forums that there is no challenging end game content, and that world events are a stupid waste of time. Are you following the logic here?

The tree of whispers is the exception to this. You can open the cashes on your alt and the sacreds will be level 45 and ancestral is level 60. It doesn’t help much but for the people who need a little extra for the capstone it can be useful.

Who cares if ball lightning was bugged?
It was fun and they only way sorcerer was worth playing with.
Read well: FUN.
what the player wants: FUN
it’s not funny when you play sorcerer and you get killed over and over aain because you are so fragile and not as powerful.
sorcerers are meant to deal absurd damage and to be more resistant to elements than other classes.
Sorcerers on D4 are the worthless class and the most weak…and that is not fun.
Close combat on Rogues was nerfed
HOTA was nerfed, but Barb and Rogue are way more superior classes than sorcerer.
Ball Lightning was nerfed and none skills were buffed: NONE!
Static surge was nerfed and those who play chain lightning on sorcerer are SCREWED

Meteor was not Buffed: it depends on a unique, so until endgame you cannot use it.
and that meteor build won’t compensate, it’s slow is not practical and you will die a lot using it,…

You think After seeing this I will play sorcerer and pay a battle pass again?
do you?
money does not grow in trees!!!

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This is about all you said that even matters. You think I’m stating my concerns because I was sorcs or any other class to feel weak and fragile? That’s a really dumb statement by you, all things considered with how very specific I stated my point.

Obviously I don’t want sorcs to feel weak, we both agree that would not be fun. But fun is also not one shotting everything and then feeling like there is no challenge.

Why? By your entire definition of sorcs so far that would mean that sorcs are supposed to deal “absurd amounts of damage” AND be tanky. So they are just the best at everything, there is no balance, there is no challenge.

I guarantee that sorcs will have a build that will make you play them in Season 3.

Honestly, you seem a bit brain dead… and I question why I’m responding to you (other than having a good reason to bump my post for funzies)

TOODLES!

you totally misunderstood my words.
of all classes, sorcerers get one-shotted the most.
I don’t want to kill things with ridiculous ease, but I also want to deal more damage and not end killed after spending a lot of time fighting an elite to be killed at the end.
All classes do more damage than sorcerer
all classes can stand more damage than sorcerer
Sorcerer damage should be above average, specially with fire, shock and frost
not under the average.
Ball lighting was fun… because it did a lot of damage, and it was nerfed, FINE!
but not buffing the raw damage of the rest of the skill, was a huge mistake.
Am I wrong? try to clear solo a NMD tier from 80-100 with an incinerate sorc?
will you survive? NO
ANY AOZ other than ball Lighting has gone beyond tier 100? NO
THANKS