When any of you guys convince the devs to change their minds about an AH and include one into the game I’ll congratulate you all. Until that time though, I’m not holding my breath waiting for something that likely will never come to D4.
Now do I agree that when implemented correctly an AH would be useful? Absolutely, but the devs have stated multiple times it will not be coming to the game.
As always, good luck, and stay thirsty my friends.
You placed AH = Capitalism and manipulation in one world while “community trading in different”?
Go on and try to trade for God tier GA items or even semi God tier with others, go on.
Go check how unrestricted system creates diversities and manipulates prices, and are trying to scam others with unrealistic amounts, that you would never ever dream about.
Oh let’s not forget that if AH existed integrated into game itself, then you could also add additional rule, which would prevent item dupe’s from happening, by simply readin Original item ID.
Which currently is impossible. cough what a situation we have at hand right now aye?
I get the concern about drop rates, but here’s the thing—there’s already trading in the game, so drop rates are already influenced by the presence of a trade system. Adding an Auction House wouldn’t fundamentally change this. It would just streamline the process and make trading more accessible, without negatively impacting players who prefer to farm for their gear.
For those who don’t want to engage with an Auction House, they wouldn’t be forced to. They can continue to play the game as they always have, farming for loot at their own pace. The Auction House would be an optional feature, providing more flexibility for those who enjoy trading, without taking anything away from the core experience.
As for the idea that wanting an Auction House means not wanting to play Diablo for the “real” experience—that’s not the case. It’s not about rushing to get the best gear without effort. It’s about giving players different ways to enjoy the game. Some players love the strategic and social aspects of trading just as much as the combat and loot hunting. Diablo is about the journey, and for some, trading is a big part of that.
In the end, an Auction House wouldn’t need to drastically alter drop rates or the core gameplay. It’s simply an additional feature that caters to different playstyles while preserving the balance and essence of what makes Diablo fun. It’s about enhancing the experience, not taking away from it.
Edit: Also didn’t the devs account for solo farming being less efficient? They modified the game so group farming wasn’t 4 times better…
Everything you discribed work without AH… It has nothing to do with AH.
Sage, I get you would like a system simular to WoW. But D2 set the standard of what trade really is with games like D4 or any other fast paced loot hunting game. In other words there is no putting that genie back in the bottle. In the end it is Blizzards decision to implement or not to implement a trade system that you speak of. If they decide to implement such system all i can do is see how things go or stop playing all together.
I see what you’re saying, but the initial reply was really just using the Auction House as a context to discuss broader issues like botting and account selling. The point wasn’t that these problems are exclusive to Auction Houses, but rather that they are potential risks in any trading system—whether it’s an AH or not.
That said, these issues aren’t unique to having an Auction House; they can and do occur in systems without one. Bots and account selling are problems in many games, and they’re not caused by the presence of an Auction House. The focus should be on how to address these risks effectively, not on the existence of the trading system itself.
Introducing an Auction House doesn’t necessarily exacerbate these problems; it just makes trading more structured and accessible. Properly implemented, it can even help mitigate some issues by offering a more transparent and regulated environment for trading. The real challenge is ensuring that the system is well-managed and secure, which is a separate issue from whether or not an Auction House exists.
In the end, while botting and account selling are valid concerns, they’re not inherently tied to the concept of an Auction House. They’re broader issues that require robust anti-cheat measures and good game management, regardless of how trading is structured.
“it removes the main purpose of the game which is to kill monsters and get loot”
Exactly. It would turn the game into a trade sim. Weather its gold or cash its the same.
Indeed.
Hoewever, it would exacerbate the cheating issues by creating more ins for the cheating industry to exploit.
So what about of Path of Exile and Last Epoch who have successfully implemented it? This game is more than just about killing. The main aim id say is to gear up. People don’t go around doing infernal hordes and nightmare dungeons for the fun of it. Now they mostly do it for Mythic uniques.
Edit: Instead of restricting the game, give people more options.
Yes, because it’s not an internal system within the game. If others want to make their own Diablo-style capitalism simulator outside of the game then that’s fine.
Why when I can just play the game? I don’t engage with trade as I feel that playing the game is sufficient for my entertainment.
That’s the risk you choose to take when engaging with external things not sanctioned by nor supported by Blizzard.
Duping would still happened so long as bugs were found to do it.
It seems that those who want an auction house just want a means to bypass the natural RNG nature of an ARPG and not actually play the game.
Well you are OP so you know best what you mean with this.
TBH i don´t mind.
Either close shop and make everything acc bound OR add decent trading system.
But current system has worse from both.
Exploits/botting/dupping already in game and normal fair players don´t have comfortable way to trade.
Well Blizzard doesn’t exactly to other games like Epoc & POE have the greatest track record in implementation . You cannot tell me for one second Blizzard was not aware of the implications here from past history …
Now here we are again history repeating itself again wtf…
Giving us something and taking it away is common practice with this company then dealing with all the negative fallout afterwards … They do it with game characters all the time and now the trading is out of control on account of duping sounds about right i guess.
In any case they split the game community which sucks and it all i think on poor unthought decision making
I understand the concern that an Auction House might create more opportunities for exploitation, but it’s not the feature itself that causes these issues—it’s how it’s managed. An Auction House can actually help by providing a more regulated and transparent trading environment, which makes it easier to monitor and address abuse compared to random in-game trades. While the risks of botting and account selling exist with or without an Auction House, a well-implemented system can include safeguards like trade limits and advanced detection tools to mitigate these risks. Rather than exacerbating the problem, an Auction House offers an opportunity for improved security measures and better overall management of trading, benefiting the game as a whole.
If we were to avoid adding any new features for fear of potential exploitation, we’d end up stifling innovation and improvements across the game. The same logic could be applied to any feature, which would mean no new content or enhancements ever get introduced. Instead, the focus should be on thoughtful implementation and robust management to handle any new risks effectively.
nobody force you to trade in this game, you don’t want it - you don’t need it.
To be fair sometimes when i read this forum i think that we are playing different games. Adjusted droprates?(everything literally raining from the sky) Not enough gold?(there is too much gold in this game already) andetc.
lol You always say the opposite of what most people are saying in any given post. I guess it’s your trade mark. 
? A lot of posts have been created recently asking for a trade house, and I’m also asking for one, and so are a lot of other people, and the reasonings I’ve seen are kinda weak, and I wanted to address some points, I mean, I’m not a dev, but if even Last Epoch and Path of Exile have done it, even when the PoE devs used to be vehemently against it? Wdym
If you can convince Grinding Gear to implement a trade house, Blizzard might follow.
is it tho?
Most of my posts excluding trolling lol is from my experience as a player and so probably i’m not a target audience for this game.
Yes, definitely this. I would love an AH. Posting to third party sites or using trade chat sucks. If i can just throw things into in game AH and continue playing would make everything so much smoother.
Thing is, I didn’t do no convincing, I was more a passerby. It was a majority of people that said they wanted and and GGG’s response was always ‘No’. Then surprise surprise one day they said they’d be testing it out. For this season they introduced it, and its got so many posts about how its so convenient.