I would like to specify things like “No Spiritborn” or whatever class/build is insanely overpowered and keeps everyone else from getting to participate.
Not just that though, a small Notes box would allow us to specify other things which would be nice.
No X sounds a bit aggressive for most peoples taste today.
But i would imagine tags like “Sorcerer” , “Rogue” etc would do.
Still, limiting peoples ability to join groups based on their class is an unnecessary thing to introduce.
At the very best have the option to accept/deny a person which still fails to the same category of limiting others.
Truth is that if all classes are close to their max power you would never have such a request. Spiritborn has really given PTSD to this community.
Ok but it’s my group listing. If I don’t want the only class in the game that’s allowed to do Quadrillions of Damage and prevents me and the rest of the party from even being able to mildly participate in the actual gameplay then that’s my choice.
Doesn’t stop me from removing people from my party, does it? So why does it matter if I’m listing from the start so people running THE most broken class or build know not to bother?
Lastly, there’s always going to be a Master Class or Flavor Of The Month build that is worlds above the rest. That’s this dev team’s nature. They claim they’re going to balance, then do the same thing every season. So why not just make it easier for me to specify things for my group content so me and those people can actually just enjoy ourselves?
Why are you talking like having to be inclusive of everyone in MY party is somehow a rule?
Dont get me wrong, i totally agree with you, i have spiritborn PTSD as well here.
Skipped most of the season because public play was totally unfun and any group i got into was either kicking me on my barb/necro/rogue or i was a walking bot.
Having said that i also consider kicking others a toxic behavior, unless they are a severe burden that i did not decide to help on my own. Its absolutely funneled by blizzard not being able to stand up for once and say we dropped the ball so we are fixing this mess. But both kinds of behavior are kind of toxic and bad for the game if you are asking me.
Again i would consider tags of classes to be a proper solution, more tools are always welcome.
But its something that i dont see fit in this game. Even in 4 man groups, in anything other than pit, 1 person can solo everything in the end of the day as long as balance is there. Which blizzard will never do right. So its an eternal loop of me defending both things, hence i ll see myself out of this post! 
edit: since you updated your comment and mentioned FOTM things. this way you are going to cancel out anyone that is not playing that in the same class. Lets say S5 a fireball sorc vs a lightning spear one. You are blocking both of them out by negating their class although one would be miles behind the other.
“No Spiritborn” was a very broad note. By adding “Notes” I could specify a specific build I’d prefer not to join as well. And it’s my party, so I reserve that right. Waiting for them to join then having to kick them is just adding extra steps.
And this was not my only reasoning for the ability to add notes. It could be used to add many other particulars for a posted party.
Notes could easily be abused, that’s the main reason they never added the option for them. You can imagine all the various things people can type in the notes, not just seclusion of classes.
Now they might offer more labels to add, but I highly doubt we’ll see an option to put in handwritten notes by anyone. People would be posting all sorts of things unrelated to the game.
I feel like they could add filters but fine, at the very least more notes so we can be more specific would be nice. “Same Class Preferred” I mean who needs that? Na, I just want to avoid the people one shotting everything before anyone else gets to be part of the game.
I take down Tormented Bosses in T4 very fast, but if a Spiritborn joins suddenly it’s just “go sit in a corner and do nothing” till they decide they’re done and leave, or I kick them.
What you’re asking for is an extreme case by case basis. You’d have better luck making a clan full of like-minded people to group up with rather than rely on the party finder to get exactly what you want.
You could just as easily have people join you that don’t meet your specified criteria because they saw a party open. Very few read the labels anyway. Ever try making a group that said voice chat? No one joins the voice chat.
Well no it doesn’t prevent them from joining but neither does “same class preferred” or any other label for that matter. However some people do read the labels, and some people even respect the labels. So who’s it gonna hurt letting me specify that I’d prefer not to group with the most broken class or build? Let them join another party or do their own thing. They don’t “have to” be in my party, right?
Agreed, I’m just saying if you want more control over your party and exactly what you want in a group, you may want to branch out and get some friends together to make a clan. Either that or hang out in a lower torment difficulty. T4 tends to have the ‘blasters’ so to speak.
I kind of enjoy just grouping up with random people. I actually use the Party Lister a lot, more than most probably. People join Clans but they’re never active, never on at the same time, etc etc. I like the idea of labels for each class though.
As i mentioned above simply more labels would help people tailor their group finding to their needs.
But what i believe is more important here is the takeaway behind why someone reached the point of making such a request.
Blizzard made a game where public play is mandatory for a big chunk of the game and most of it if you are not rotting in pits.
Blizzard also made a raid where group play is mandatory.
Blizzard made bosses be more cost-effective by grouping up.
Then there is pit pushing where grouping is actually worse for you somehow.
Blizzard made anything other than pit explode in a milisec and ofc the spiritborn fiasco. But then again, its not like lightning spear sitting in a corner in Maiden was any better of an experience. Or any ranged rogue build other than rapid fire. Ever played barb or druid in public play except twister/tornado? Yeap. Same thing as having a spiritborn along today. No kind of note or label would save you from this.
Its a design issue where the game tries to be everything but somehow fails at everything so group play ends up a bad experience, solo play in the end loses meaning unless you want to flex your pit clear or paragon level for extra cookies.
Simply put game needs a ton of work from where we are unfortunately and notes on a party finder should be the least of your concerns because that would literary fix nothing.
It doesn’t address the core issue, you are right. However, I have zero faith in Blizzard’s constant promises at Balance. I fully believe they will continue to do what they’ve done every season immediately after promising balance in the Campfire Streams just before each season begins. So rather than expect anything to change I’d rather just be able to be more specific in the Party Finder.
Yeah I really wish they had a system like PoE2 – were you pretty much can customize what the group’s going to do.
But honestly, they need some way to automate boss summon mat distribution for a group, before anything. Or just require everybody contribute one just to get the summon.
Group meta is absolutely mandatory for this game in its current state and that’s not very good for an ARPG, imo. Especially with how clunky it is to organize mats with pugs summoning bosses.
100% this. Everyone should pay their own way. Then decrease the summon mats required to one. Can also decrease mat drops to 1-2 instead of 4. It’s crazy it takes 6 of some to summon.
I cannot support discriminatory practices in games.
I guarantee your “noble intentions” will be reversed and people will use the system to only take in the strongest builds completely preventing anyone not running the meta from playing with anyone else.
There’s a reason gear blindness is the base standard in most games now-a-days.
It’s not preventing anything. It’s notifying people what I’m looking for, for my group.
Discriminatory? I don’t HAVE to play with anyone or any class or any build I don’t want to.
It just saves me time not having to stop every 5 seconds to kick the Spiritborn.
You can’t force “inclusion” into who wants to party with who in a video game.
I feel like this is where society is headed. Soon someone is gonna tell me I have to let strangers into my house whenever they want because if I don’t, that’s discrimination and not being inclusive.
No one is legit going to get butthurt if they look up randomly posted Parties and see one that states “no spiritborn”. They’re either going to find a different party in the list, go SSF cause they don’t need help being that broken anyway, or they’ll join to be a troll and then just get kicked anyway.
So here’s the problem.
I get it, you’re thinking about you and you alone but from a community standpoint it’s just not a good move. This is especially prescient because in two weeks the SB issue will be obsolete.
Spiritborn will still be massively overpowered compared to any other class. Wait and see.
You can already specify “same class preferred” so adding additional tags for each class is literally no different.
Yes, this personally affects me which is why I’m saying something, and I’m 100% sure I’m not the only one out there who would prefer being able to state in their public party listings that they actually want to get to play the game, not sit idly by while a broken class gets left broken and refuses to allow anyone else to participate.
Let’s focus on this piece for a second. You don’t want to play with people who delete the screen. Fine. Future facing, will you just kick every class that has a meta build that deletes the screen? If Druid is the S7 posterchild theoretically will you just refuse to play with druids?
I mean my main focus on this is that you’re talking about your experience relative to your choices versus that of others and kind of demanding the world fall in line. As I said prior you can’t actually enforce the rules. If, if, such a system were to be implemented it should be done in a silent fashion; you should be able to make a group and just select the classes that can apply with no one being able to see your choices. I could deal with that.
But any outward messaging of disapproval of a class or build almost always leads to funneling towards an overweighting which leads to disapproval of that class or build etc. If SB is the pariah then no one will play it but then they take up the second strongest and abuse that which becomes the pariah ad infinitum.
Let me be clear though: Your frustration is legitimate. It is not fun to play with people who are either overpowered or have a large power gap to yourself no matter what the game or class etc.