No nerfs. Thats one thing they got very right during this season. Not having to worry about that has been amazing. Id preder they not even nerf after the season, nerfs are uber lame.
But not even Ball Lightning or Hota are supposed to be able to do this full Abbatoir of Zir. Maybe Rob’s immortal Barbarian build with Melted Heart of Selig.
For real? If we had balance game would die??? 
I don’t understand why casual bob thinks he can build however he wants and clear pinnacle content. It’s not gonna happen.
Not build however I want. I think the ability should be there. If I choose incinerate as my main skill then there should be aspects and a skill setup available to choose that is able to complete all content but we know that is not available right now because incinerate sucks. This is the point. I dont think I should be able to put incinerate and chain lightning and ice sword and unstable elements on my bar and be able to beat everything. Build still has to be good.
I’d like to see Incinerate become viable. There must be a board for it lemme find you a link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MLqNDuq5TU&t=128s
This is for Rogue, but go through your wizard boards and see if you can figure out anything for Incinerate.
I think you are missing the point or never played Diablo 3. You aren’t supposed to be able to clear the hardest content. It’s a dangling carrot-- out of reach – until suddenly it isnt. I didnt do a solo gr 150 in D3 until season 19? 17? So, it’s going to be a while.
This is more for competitive players. Not you. 
just kidding. These activities are for the “base” of the players. Like in a political party. Players who will ride & die with a game for 10 years. We keep the power on.
Does the Abbotoir of Zir just scale infinitely?
I wish. We do not have math or code able to handle that. That’s why GRs were capped in D3.
It’s just endless greater rifts that goes on until impossibility that likely some builds will still be able to finish anyway.
First you need to ask, why do you even care to do this? What’s going to drop that could be interesting, because you stopped caring about gear a long time ago by this point.
Glyph xp? I mean sure but again, who really needs this?
Bragging rights? I’m sure the 15 or so people still playing will be super proud of the streamer they are watching push forward into an endless hamster wheel of insanity.
GRfits were terrible content in D3 and soon enough they’ll be terrible content in D4, but everyone will come back and try them because there isn’t anything else to do so it’s going to look like they are liked.
if i cared about wudijo’s opinion then maybe. id rather experience the content for myself and make my own assessment
Depends on how much of a skill check the boss is opposed to a pure gear check.
if you can compensate bad builds with playing better, there isn’t much wrong about hard content.
These Abattoir of Zir’s are a perfect way to get some real heavy data on what is overperforming / underperforming. A beta would be great ofc so that the first Zir season wont be one big beta.
The top of the leaderboard will ofc be the best build and on the best rolled map.
What I hope is that the Devs will have better skills than D3 devs had when they tried to implement balance. Not just add a “Skill of X” item/set that adds 800% to it so that it comes up to par with other builds.
Been playing some Project D2 lately and I will never return to D4 with the itemization and way to achieve them now that I have gotten a taste of how good it can actually be. So right now I woudnt care about balance for the Abbatoir of Zir since the road to getting my cool character that I can test out in the Zir’s is so mindblowingly boring and pigeonholed by the devs.
Sorry for the rant Im just very disappointed with D4 since the graphics, animations and world has so much promise.
Hope you get the balance you are asking for OP and hope the devs implement it in a more creative way than they have so far…
First of all why do you care what some guy you dont know says on the internet? Second, there will always be builds better than others…always. It would be impossibly bland if everything performed the exact same. It will never happen and that is ok. Lastly, play and decide for yourself. Stop blindly following others.
Dude, I’m no fan of streamers and build sites, however I can guarantee that the streamers and build site creators have builds that will clear it stashed away in their list of future content to release. They always do.
Build gets nerfed- within 2 hours there’s another build just as broken up. They never ever show their entire hand, it’s called keeping things in reserve for that mass influx of clicks.
you forgot the 21 point combo rogue is really who its meant for. That led guy at bliz called that build out and said this one dungeon is to test that “not broken” build on the rogue
I think i saw others say, bliz is testing things out… This just proof Diablo 4 wasnt ready to be released (I begged them to hold off at least 1 more year before releasing it when it was ‘ready’) Of course, I am only a lonely tester and not an invester so my word has no value to the mighty buck.
At least I’m not a lonely tester anymore, we all are testers (probably for about a year of time when the game will really be ready and playable for all classes to enjoy and have fun) - for now, play "y"OUR way
this type of contend is there only provide the small player base that is only interested in high end contend, so this type of dungeon is perfect for them, but i believe only a minor part of the player base will do this on a regular base.
You’re assuming that they aren’t going to bring down the hammer on the broken builds that are doing 100x the damage of the nearest high end “normal” builds…
D4 is too new to just buff everything else up to those levels. They probably don’t want people doing 420E69 levels of damage just yet lol.
i think dropping meaningful content mid league is always a dangerous precedent no matter what.
i dont really care for now while the game is a mess without ladders heh
This is probably not a very liked opinion but yet it is my opinion: Ball Lightning Sorcs are actually the reason why i enjoy the game again. Zooming through hordes of mobs, dealing serious damage, melting bosses - thats what i always loved about Diablo games.
Finally i can do that agin and i really really hope that these kind of power becomes standard for all classes in next season.
Now they need to fix boring loot and i am surely will play this game for years - just like i played 29 seasons of D3
Now go and blow me out of the water for beeing a bad player, a noob and an idiot for having this opinion.
Love you all
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same! why have a ‘hard time/stuggle’ in an action game… it should have more cowbell… i mean more action!