I started seriously PC gaming with Diablo 1, and consider myself part of the original Diablo fanbase. D2 is still my most played game, ever. I’m a realist, I know D2 isn’t a good game anymore by modern standards. We already got a 1:1 copy of D2 with modern graphics and the nostalgia carried me through for about a month, but I got bored.
The Diablo series needed a change, so does the entire stale ARPG genre. D4 is shaping up to be my favorite game of the series, and I’m excited to play it in June.
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Let those who want to live in 1995 with dial up and runeword-only builds do so 
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i have played d2 off and on for over 20 years now and i can honestly say they did an excellent job with d2r. especially since they have added/will add more rune words, charms, terror zones, sunder charms, items, etc every season. the team at blizz that updated d2 really did a great job imo. speaking of which, I am off to farm some cows lol. gotta play something until d4 releases after all. 
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There’s a Diablo “veteran” somewhere who can tell us how they personally contributed at least half of these hours, probably more.
It’s the same story we’ve seen before. When companies try to go for mass appeal it’s going to alienate the most hardcore people in the scene.
It happened with WoW for example. WoW got slammed hard in the MMORPG scene for being dumbed down and for casuals. And it was in comparison to other games, but nobody stopped to think about the potential the genre had if it was more “accessible”. Not saying this will happen ofc, but it’s been quite similar seeing these posts over these 3-4 weeks. It’s almost always on “this is not Diablo” or “It’s too casual” or “Doing it this will kill the game”. Great, and can we now see if it’s a good game and will we still play it?
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Lol what. D4 is a D3 clone
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I don’t get the obsession with wanting new iterations of Diablo to just be better looking D2, it’s like they ignore that HD D2 exists and they can go play either version of D2 if they want.
I got my wolf pack, I was part of the 62 million hours of fun.
Did they ever release the amount of unique users who logged in? if there were 62 million people, for instance, that would average about an hour each. the number of unique users is kind of important.
Was two million the number? that’s actually surprisingly low. I expected like 5 million, easy. With a certain population always afk in town, it is less than ~12 hours per player; still a hefty amount of time invested but MUCH more reasonable.
some people were AFK in town for the entire three days, that’s 72 hours right there from one user.
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Yeah, they said “over 2 million”, which is super good if you ask me.
Can you direct me to your source, good sir? I honestly just can’t make that logically work. 2 million is SUPER low for a Diablo game.
I dont udnerstand why people dont want a better game. stuff like bad game gonna refund are bad sure doesnt help. but peopel who go over parts fo the game and through talk about it is very good. it can help devs figure out if something need to be changed or not. They dont have to ship the game as is with no cahnges either.
It was the biggest beta in Diablo history… so, not sure where you get your gut feelings from.
My OG source is from PC gamer and Game Spot but they took that from a Twitter post and graphic the devs made. The graphic states 2.6 million wolf packs earned… so you can extrapolate that some amount of people were not able to earn their wolf pack.
So maybe 3 mill tops.
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I mean I think Diablo 2 is the greatest game ever made. It makes Diablo 3 look like a silly arcade game. But D4 is amazing. I find that it’s much more PoE players coming to crap all over the game moreso than D2 players. Path of Exile players know that Diablo IV will take away their player base for the most part. So they’re mad.
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Outrage sells, and unfortunately it comes down to streamers and their little cultists having to call everything ‘garbage’ unless it’s a carbon copy of another game they liked so much. I don’t mind people not enjoying the game, but what annoys me is streamers and their fanatic fan base just crapping on anything for the sake of being negative. Those people can shove it.
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Oh ive said it at least a dozen times.
By holiday 2023 everyone will say “oh yeah remember d4 came out lol. what a flop”
Lock it in guarantee
Your average “curious” player is only going to spend a couple hours testing the game tops. Assuming an average of four hours played per person, definitely puts the game in the 10-20 million testers range. Also remember that most people never even touch betas. The game will sell 10 million+ copies in the first month, if not first couple weeks. Mark my words.
I agree with you. It’s important to understand this did not happen to video games 20 years ago. Particularly blizzard. I know they are much different company today than 20 years ago, but what changed?
I think the social media and entitlement culture is the problem. Social media rewards hot takes and negative downer YouTube videos with terrible headlines get more views. Some ppl feed off that and adopt those views but unironically buy the game, put 100 hours into it and still complain n
I can’t lay blame to blizzard. Games now a days have enormous feature sets, require hundreds of people and years to develop. And after all that it’s a moving target. People esports then they didn’t. People wanted mmos then they didn’t.
I do not think negative attitude represents the majority of players. I thin’ D4 is going to be the biggest and most popular game blizzard has released ever.
That’s like 7100 years if I did my math correctly.
Note: I am terrible at math and I didn’t count leap years. Forgive me if this is WAY off.
this forum is such a small percent of the actual player base. Usually the more vocal people that dislike something.
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Haters complain at a 10:1 ratio. Also for every 1 complainer, there are 10 silent content people.