or play seasonal only. Which many do.
But I play both and am not bothering.
Your scenario however is the most valid case “for” that I have heard so far.
This is what this thread is about. Most will not matter, people are discussing whether or not to keep DR on eternal as this stat will be much rarer in the new Itemization.
As for you if you play on Eternal, you should at least go through them and salvage or sell them if you don’t want to keep them, again IF you play on eternal. Gold and Mats will survive the new itemization.
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I’ve said multiple times that DR on Pants may be desirable, because of the large nerf to Tibault’s, and the lack of decent defense Tempers (on PTR). That’s assuming that we don’t get a DR affix in S4 Live.
The problem is that it’s only a single slot, and you can’t really stack DR to get decent benefit out of it like you could previously. And then… it’s Eternal only. 
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Sorry I may have missed your post, I do try to read them all, I meant his specific thorns build, the way razorplate is changing.
You mean 40%(x) - 20%(x)? Or something else?
This change won’t impact how good it will still be. And it needed to happen. I think that multiplier needs to be removed altogether to keep it from being BIS.
3 reasons
- Damage nerf. Not super important, but it’s there
- No Tempering.
- Affixes are better on Legendaries
All combined, I don’t see any of my characters using it.
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Oh yeah I forget the no tempering part for Unqiues.
I will probably still use it though.
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At the end of the day, THIS is the most important bit. Most people don’t regularly play Eternal, so even if there were a ton of legacy gear that would be great to keep for years, it’s going to get almost no play. 
My Level 100 Eternal Rogue has:
Chest Armor: Base DR, DR: Close, DR: Distant
Legs: Base DR, DR: Close, Dr: While Injured
Amulet: Base DR
Other than many DR affix, shrine buff duration also remove. This affix is useful for PIT run especially with Ahavarion spear build. It only come with Boost and Amulet.
Ahavarion spear is very fun to play as you can fish a good shrine to fast track your dungeon completion
No defense affix in new Legendary gear comparable to the old DR especially DR while injured. Armor is not even relevant as it will be easily CAP at 9230. You get more HP with greater affix in new gear, but the DR scale better in higher tier PIT as you directly reduce the damage from high level monster instead of tank the damage with more HP.
The opportunity cost not having rubies for %Life is way too much.
Of all the systems they’ve recently changed, I’m by far the most disappointed in the gems. They really hyped those changes up and I think we have less effective choice now than we did before.
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I would imagine they have reduced the effectiveness of legacy armor and weapons to more closely match up with the new system since many changes have been made to the everything in the game. Even going from season 1 to season 2 items from S1 were weaker than S2 so I think you’re going to want to get into new armor and weapons asap in S4.
Agreed, the stats aren’t worth it over the rubies. The only real choice will be what to slap on your weapons based on your build. Stat/Affix increases were nice across the board on gems but they only really sealed the deal with the ruby buff.
Not really, Blizzard purposely remove DR and shrine buff effect from new gear.
You know, I was going to convert all my Shattered Stones into Obols chests but then what would be the point? Anything I buy with the Obols would be obsolete in S4 even in the Eternal realm as the itemization fix also applies to the Eternal realm.
So I get a few items with DR of some sort, but you couldn’t Masterwork them and none of the Legendaries would have any Greater Affixes.
About all you can do is RNG for gear to get max rolled aspects and extract/save the aspects for to add to your Eternal Realm codex. Other than that, you might as well just junk everything or turn your Eternal realm chars into mannequins.
Am I missing something?
Obols are far more lucrative than they have been in the past year. They were confirmed in the recent campfire to give guaranteed 925 rolls at lvl 100, guaranteed legendaries, and can roll with greater affixes.
As per gear, if you’re looking to dabble in Eternal, keeping 3-4 DR affixed chest and pants will be very strong for upper Pits if your damage is suffice (armor is static 9230, so hit that mark and you’re golden). All extracted aspects and non-imprint legendaries can be salvaged into codex.
Realistically, hunting for new weapons, new rings, and greater affix/updated uniques will be priority one after patch drops. Tempering and Masterworking armor off the rip is not make or break imo.
im worried legacy pants will be the best option for some builds with limited utility options
new pants didn’t have the “potion while injured” part either so i think that would put them in a slightly different spot than chest/helm/boots (which still have inherent affix)
oh sidenote, in the patch notes they buffed the inherent affix’s (resists, evade charges, etc…) on ammy/ring/boots also making me wonder if the masterwork not increasing those was intended
nothing i hate more than the fomo of a legacy BIS item that’s no longer obtainable for me or anyone else.
Fully upgraded all, thanks nerfalem
Depends on what you want to achieve with your masterwork and greater affix. If you play DR injured then you don’t need any masterworking on you defensive gear you are already immune to damage depends on your build. Same goes for Shrine buff duration, if you have protection or channeling shrine extended to 45 seconds or has Conduit you don’t need any affix as you will be playing like a god. Just get Ashavaran staff and you will feel the fun.
I am not sure its effective in the PIT thought, as it depends on how Blizzard tune monster HP. Shrine scale with monster level, that’s the reason in AOZ blizzard fix the monster lvl at 160 max and only scale their HP. In PIT the monster level can go to 200, but not sure how the HP scale.
You can always mix match your legacy and new gear and find the best combination. I have pre-imprint them with codex and added sockets in case this cant be done in S4 too.
Anyone want to trade something like 200M gold in D4 Seasonal Realm for a Legacy Puzzle Ring in D3? I’m out of gold.
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But you can’t keep your Shattered Stones from Season 3 going into Season 4. I dunno if the Obol chests can also be stored but that’s a lot of chests to put into inventory, but I agree that going forward Obols would a bigger boon. IMO it would be better if we could somehow save some of this season’s Obols to be used by your Eternal real chars. But I would consider Obols chests as being seasonal as they’re derived from a Shattered Stones which are seasonal.