We require feedback as well, Bliz

That’s how it’s almost always been. Blizzard is probably the single worst online gaming company at communicating with their players. I’ve defended Blizzard a lot on various forums, but it’s absolutely bizarre how bad their communication really is.

Quoting myself from the last PTR:


D3 Buffs and Nerfs are Flavour of the Season rotations, so that they can create drama and interest in this old product.

Bringing all the builds in line will never happen, the game will be left to die, as DI and DiV launch.

My suggestion is for you to decide what style and goal you like to do ingame now and ignore the rest of the noise.

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I main DH, and have only played DH, minus one season where I tried to play WW/Rend and ZBarb. I’ve had some slight interested in trying Necro but I don’t have the expansion for it, and I dont plan on throwing more money into D3 with the shtshow they have going on. Maybe I’ll finally give Wizard a try…But not likely.

GoD brought DH in line with other top builds…And while I realize this is only the beginning of PTR, so hopefully GoD6 will get buffed up again a bit. It just shows their ignorance on how they’re trying to fix a problem…With not even attempting to fix the actual problem.

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They won’t give feedback because Diablo 3 is in maintenance mode and has been moved to their vintage games collection.
There are limited devs working on it due to the fact they only make money off of banned players re-buying the game.
We have to be happy they have any support for a 9 year old game at all, and the lack of theme content and really the follower rework is long overdue 2 set reworks that the wizard will be nerfed and the necro will go live as is God set has been nerfed right where they want it and WD Spirit barrage got another kick in the teeth just like the crusaders heaven’s fury, seems like it will mostly go live as is Wizard Fire birds will be nerfed into the ground just like akkhan invoker bomb build last ptr

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I know what you mean but i don’t like how this is used as a one way explanation by some. Clearly the game is in some kind of maintenance but if so, how is it every season one class gets stronger and stronger and all the other classes weaker? How is it maintenance when necro got 2 completely new / reworked sets, 5-6 S-tier builds and massive item reworks like amulet, bracers, shoulders, gloves and new mechanics completely rewriting the class from the start for some builds in the course of the last 2 seasons (S21 & S22) ? And wd got basically zombie bears? That’s it… That’s literally the only thing wd got after the release of mundu and 2 consecutive nerfs. With an item that uses the same skin and icon as an already existing old mojo. They didn’t even bother designing it. The skin thing is trivial i admit but just mentioning it. Isn’t this laughable? Who can guarantee here that when they release D4, after the first dlc they won’t pull some similar tricks, working on the only class that earns them a few extra bucks?


What are the chances of actual feedback on this patch? I mean if you are going to nerf GOD that hard then maybe mention you might scale it back up once you get the data? If that’s not your intention then why destroy one of the most popular builds?

They have so much explaining to do but crickets…

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We have to remember that they are people too. Patch came out on Thursday, and they normally don’t work during the weekends unless something game breaking happens. This would mean if they had any plans to say something, it wouldn’t happen until the next business day.

This isn’t to say that they will actually say something. For whatever reason, they’re quiet around these boards and a little more active on places like reddit and twitter. They also have to filter through feedback from other social media outlets too. While this is the official forums, we occupy a small space in the overall scheme of things.

Going based on past PTR’s, we’ll see another round of patch notes sometime this week. We’ve done our parts here by providing loads of feedback. All we can do is wait and hope for the best.

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looking back at the past PTR’s for seasons we have gotten plenty of feedback from the community managers, they even peeked in streams from time to time.

Sadly the people are not here anymore, and its new folks that just dont have the same tendency to speak up. I would love to see them be in some streams or actually reply to some of the posts regarding changes and such. I hope things can channge but i highly doubt it

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Help us out here Blizzard. You require our feedback. And we very much require your feedback as well. And while people are posting their bugs finds and feedback, there has been no replies from any Bliz/D3 staff regarding…anything.

Hey Mersinary, I’m posting on this topic to let you and others in here know that we’re reading feedback on these forums and other channels where our community is active. At this time, we have no comments to make. However, please keep sharing your experiences and constructive feedback on all things relevant to the PTR; this assists us in understanding your point-of-view greatly.


This response isn’t going to go down well with DH and WD players, I’m sure.


I’m really, really trying not to sound bitter or snarky here so I hope that comes through via text, but it’d be really illuminating for us as the players if Blizz would do us the same honour. Like Meteorblade said, there are a lot of confused, frustrated DH and WD fans in the forum right now who would really love some further clarification beyond what was posted in the patch notes about why our builds are being nerfed because right now, the general feeling I’m getting is that people don’t understand Blizzard’s point of view on these matters at all (particularly so for DHs, for whom the nerf the GoD build received seems especially harsh).


Thank you for giving us a heads up that you are reading the forums. But it is very true I’m doing tons of testing on PTR especially with the GoD DH build. And the interaction with the pierces just to fix missle dampening is breaking the whole entire set to the ground. Even at 5300 Paragon and max out gear have to fish for GR130 let alone a Paragon 14,000 barley cleared 140. Videos have been posted to even show what has happened to the set. Please keep us updated.

As a DH and WD player I can confirm this.

I really would like to know what the hell were they thinking when they completely butchered the best builds for both classes which were nowhere near overperforming.


@Kirottu’s post

I’m a WD player and I strongly agree with ^

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I just wanted to add that I’m a long time Witch Doctor player and I was testing on PTR. I found it very sad to me that such a fun idea of solo buffs were not enough to make me want to play. Witch doctor and Demon Hunter classes are being nerfed far too much for no good reason. They are not overpowered and in particular the Witch Doctor Class has no place in the game anymore.

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I suspect that Blizzard is looking both at the GR clear data and player’s comments on the PTR. I bet there will be changes. It is the PTR not set in stone.

The solution (I hope) is that the class set bonus is greatly increased so that overall GoD is strong but not OP. Ideally, the GoD set is a primary skill set but currently “everyone” use the devouring arrow rune of HA. By “breaking HA”, the class set bonus can go up, reducing the RNG related to missile dampening, and make other primary skills more comparable.

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I hope you are right. There’s so much that WD needs changes for but I’m just not sure blizzard will have time to address them.


Thaaaaaaaank you! =)

No offense, but I’ve seen this lines before however I have almost never have seen that our point of view actually has an impact.

I’ve not played for several years now soly due to the fact that everytime you guys mess around with the class I almost exclusively play, Wizard, you go around in, and I can’t put this any nicer, the most idiotic way to fix things. And I’m pretty sure there are, or should I say were, lots of people around feeling the same about their beloved class.