The Tomes of Deckard Cain

[ShoRim-1802]

The Tomes of Deckard Cain

A work in progress, from the following people. ShoRim, Doine, Dunstan, DeToX, Aeon, Lolli42, GreatSCOTT

I am gathering information form posts that have been on a similar train of thought.

I will leave others to add their contributions as it will be easier for them to do so, then I will add them as needed to the top part of this post.

So as I see it at this point the Tomes of Deckard Cain can have a Bestiary as well as Hell/Demonic, Heaven/Angelic and Sanctuary/Ancestral Powers, the Learning of skills, unlocked Plans a World Map as seen by the character using it Fog of War type of thing and whatever else the Devs see fit to put here.

This should be easy to bring in as lore friendly as well as when leveling.

This could be used as a base for many things not just the above items general Lore of the whole Diablo Universe, D1, D2, D3 and any new lore they wish to add.

I’ll list topics then add chapters as we see the relevance.

Bestiary this one could become large so maybe we keep it as small as we can

Skill tags and the way we can Learn them or the Nephalem tree

Hidden Places and Items

Hell/Demonic, Heaven/Angelic and Sanctuary/Ancestral Powers

Unlocked Plans

World Map using a Fog of War

whatever else the Devs see fit to put here.

Bestiary

The different monster families. There will be things that we learn as we level about the lower creatures of these groups and as we grow we find out more, this part would just come from the interaction we have with them, if you kill them fast you may not see some of what they are capable of. The completionist in me is coming out or is that just OCD. lol.

As for the Families themselves we can add minor points in time.

@"Lolli42-2538

rhykker reminded me of something, that was just mentioned here in an other thread but i really want to bring it up again

skilltags could do wonders to itemization and build diversity

instead of a legendary power, that says: “increases the number of projectiles for fireball by 2”, you could have: “increases the number of protectiles by 2” so it could also affect frost bolt f.e.

fireball could have these tags: “projectile, aoe, fire”

so you could also have: “increases the area of effect by 50%” or “increases the chance to ignite with fireskills by 30%”

you could have different items for a skill like “fireball” and you could have a legendary power like “increases number of projectiles” for different skills

@"ShoRim-1802

I think it was mentioned in a roundabout way at Blizzcon.

The fallen sharman used the multi fireball effect but used it to rez three of the fallen, so it’s been done just has to be adapted to skills

It was on a Official stream or streamer I don’t remember.

The fallen basic Grunts, but the Shaman have the ability to resurect their fallen friends some say that master Shaman can do this to many with but one jesture.

@"Cramp-2607

On a more serious note. Monster Hunter Style crafting/loot system. I believe there was once a plan in D1 or D2 to have monsters drop what you’d expect. Zombies drop limbs, wolves drop fur, stuff like that. These can be applied to all mobs or just bosses. This way you’ll have an additional reason to grind specific areas. This is like Boss specific legendary items. Apart from equipment crafting, these materials can also/instead be used for crafting consumables(like potions) but with varying effects. The effect and strength of the effect depends on the materials.

Skill tags and the way we can Learn them or the Nephalem tree

@"GreatSCOTT-11380

Hey, nobody wants two classes to be the same, right? You stumbled upon a book case as a wizard and discovered a tome. You attempt to decipher the tome and POOF! It exploded in your face because you weren’t intelligent enough to understand, also destroying and chance of learning the secrets in it. Better luck next time.

@"ShoRim-1802

There is more to add, just been commenting in the Main D4 Thread on an Idea of the Tomes of Deckard Cain.

Maybe as you learn more your chance of success improves, on a like for like basis.

You understand what Fire Ball does now how does that work in respect to Fire Wall and the scroll you just found. It gives you based on you understanding a better chance to learn it, the same could apply to other missile/projectile spells.

@"Doine-1353

Here’s an example:

You have a Druid with rabid bite that has a DOT (damage over time) effect that does poison damage over 2 seconds.

You go to this new tree of abilities and you cross over Andariel and in her constellation or less evil diagram or what have you, it says “all DOT effects have a chance to release a poison nova when full damage is complete (so after 2 seconds).” You decide you like this since you’re using rabid bite and want this ability on your rabid bite and put points into Andariel to unlock the ability and equip it to your skill rabid bite skill!! Dun dun dun!

So now when you hit with rabid bite and the DOT finishes you have a chance to release a poison nova! Hell yeah!

So using the lore and all the angle’s and demon’s in the game plus even Nephalem characters, like Rathma, weapons that they had like Tyreals El Druin, Deckard Cain’s texts. There can be many different abilities.

The tree could actually go three different directions then. Like a pie chart. One area for Hell, Heaven and Sanctuary. Some people may not even know half of the angle’s and demon’s and may even want to check on the lore to find out who they are, bringing them closer to the game.

The idea of leaning from your obisvation of mobs and tomes about how to tweek skills so as you gain a small % chance in an infinite progress system, of changing the way a Spell/Skill works.

If done correctly only small boost in power by changing the effect of one spell/skill and it’s lore friendly.

Hidden Places and Items

@"Sardaukar

I want a whole bunch of hidden dungeons. And with hidden I mean that they don’t glow like objectives like in D3, they’re not mentioned anywhere in the game guide and you basically have to stumble upon them. Some you can find after getting a tome somehow, others by listening to an NPC, some you need to get a couple of artifacts together (like the staff of herding, but with a lot better dungeon), some I want only visible during the day/night (in-game) or even a certain moon-phase. Get creative, but give us different things to puzzle out, to accomplish

@"ShoRim-1802

> Also, some hidden things should be almost impossible to find, something in the lines of open a door with a specific rune world or something like that.

A quest starts with a rumor in a different town about the way moonlight shines on mountain side to show a door that no one knows how to enter.

On that, this can add another way to use Runes.

Without the right Runes used on a nearby shrine on that Moonlit Night you cannot open the door.

![|20x20] nvvr:

> Making objectives for every dungeon would feel redundant so I think it’s important for the developers to create other incentives to explore.

![|20x20] Illuminatist:

> Doing a whole quest line to open hidden dungeon seems tooo tedious in my opinion. Plus, if these are supposed to be hidden and random, wouldn’t they despawn to a different location by the time you completed the suggested questline to enter?

Yes there will always be people that just want to get to higher level areas, so most dungeons will need be walk-up and enter.

Back to my post at the top

Even to the point that this type of Dungeon will never be seen in the same place by other people, say when a character is created a code number is linked to it " RND Code " so that you cannot just search for a post " I just found a map that no-one else has and this is where you find it "

Not everyone wants to do side quests but for the people that do. I would hate to just be able to go to a search page to find them all.