Season 37 end early? Pretty please?

This seasonal theme is terrible and only benefits necros and a little wiz. It shoulndt be in rotation as it just lack fun and anything to do unless ur playing necro. Everything is much much much weaker than Necro so playing any other class is just a waste of time and efforts. Could we have this season just end early would be appriciated by most of the community. For necros mains there is nothing to worry about anyway since its still gonna be the strongest next season just other classes will be stronger and more fun to play since they wont require 2000-5000 para to do a 150.

Thanks,
Jazu

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Thinking S37 started on early December and we are at end of January, there barely a month left in this Season anyway. As for power gap, there are some wild cards for every class to gain power with or without the inclusion of RoRG. For sure, you will never deal damage comparable to a Necromancer, but they also need to trade-off some of their defenses just to reach that amount power and that’s a route that you need to follow if you want to close that gap.
Spend some time in simulator and consider your options by looking at class specific items, it may worth it. Don’t get stuck on online guides, because guides are there for you to have a short preparation time and toss you into the average Greater Rifts at most efficiency.

I should have had enough interest last season to play thru the entire season since the theme offers the most power across all classes. I had problems with the challenges and didn’t complete the altar, just lost interest. Same thing this season. After completing the altar, I just lost interest and bought the current D1.

To be honest, in my opinion of course, I think this theme supports every class in terms of power. However, there’s a huge power gap between Necromancers, Wizards and the rest which you can not ignore. Addition to that, the online guides also don’t help public opinion to have an objective outlook for themselves.
Whenever I try to insinuate that Forbidden Archives is actually there for your creativity, I get bombarded by online guides and tier lists made by some top notch player. Nevertheless, that didn’t stop players who climbed the Leader Boards with the rest of the classes other than a Necromancer, and whip their own rendition of the build.

I have some notes from playing the game and shifting things around simulator, and I suggest anyone to do the same for themselves. Each class have their own wildcards, but they’re not as flashy compared to toys of Necromancers.
First of all, you have to give away some of the defensive capabilities when you want full benefit from this Season. That usually happens as including RoRG in the setup and equipping a defensive Legendary grade piece. Other than that, there are some defensive active skills that you have to treat as a key for your success, and by the Forbidden Archives theme, each class can equip something extra when they pay attention to sustain their defenses.

In general, you have to be picky about the side Set unless you equipped a 7-piece Set else Set itself simply lacks a certain slot. Unless you equipped a Set with 7-piece or no Set boots, such as Tal’s or even Sunwuko, I wouldn’t consider Crimson’s an option. There are exceptions to this rule, but in case you want to make the most of this theme rather than get stuck with non-Seasonal setup, it’s due making some trade-offs and explore your options.
I haven’t evaluated every combination, but it’s quite possible that every class have setups that have to include RoRG or ignore it completely. Latter is only possible when you spare space for defensive buffs and adapt to play around defensive Legendary item slots that doesn’t interact with RoRG; belts, bracers or off-hands. Do some comparisons between classes and you’ll figure it out.

For example; Monks driven by Spirit drain and use The Flying Dragon in Cube for having limited means for Spirit replenish, or can equip Shenlong’s Set when they have it abundantly on demand. Usually, you have to pair Lefebvre’s (hint: WKL activates it with TR) or Spirit Guards with your other layers of defenses but as you stack Paragon level, I believe it’s possible to replace Lefebvre’s with Mantle of Channeling or Binding of the Lost, depending on your build.
Possible that when you include Inner Sanctuary and SSS on your setup, the buff from BotL shall suffice to get rid of RoRG. But, that won’t apply to every build and in that case you have to include WKL with Lefebvre’s and TR- Bluster.

Similar to above, Crusaders depending on their Wrath replenish have Akkhan’s Addendum with Norvald’s Set to mobilize, else Stone Gauntlets and Akarat’s Awakening to sustain cooldowns. They can get rid of Crimson’s to replace it with Sacred Harness with Falling Sword- PtC and Iron Skin- Charged paired with APD bracers but I reckon they will heavily rely on Akarat’s Champion to replenish resources.
When you can include Sacred Harness and APD to a setup, that’s where you can get rid of RoRG. Alternatively, Stone Gauntlets can help with a build that doesn’t run into problems with Wrath consumption and have to rely on side Sets, but Provoke will be a mandatory pick for keeping the aggression. I reckon the only build to utilize this setup is Invoker to make ends meet with Belt of the Trove before that.

Uniquely, Witch Doctors have to decide between Grin Reaper for pure pet damage inheriting from your bonuses; else Homunculus or Wormwood somewhere just to support Sacrifice- Provoke the Pack with any skill that spawn a Zombie Dog from slain monsters. When you have involved with Homunculus, I suggest that you make a few friends with Uhkapian’s Serpent; else MoC with Firebats- Vampire when off-hand is slot is (equipped Zuni’s off-hand) not available.
Alternative to those would be pairing Sacred Harvester and The Last Breathe or Starmetal Kukri depending on your setup and choice of skill for sustaining Zombie Dog spawns.

As I gathered, Wizards have to choose whether they include Archon form or not; Fazula’s belt or equipping Set Sources are the means of ditching RoRG. Seemingly, Wizards can choose between Starfire for reverse Archon, Deathwish for channeling skills, then add Primordial Soul or Orb of Infinite Depth depending on the preferred range and elemental.
As for defensive options, there’s not much to talk about because OoID and Karini’s ring are almost staple items. In case you meant to equip OoID or Fazula’s with a Set Source (Chantodo’s, Tal’s, Firebird’s), you can also utilize Halo of Arlyse instead by pairing Ice Armor- Ice Reflect thanks mobility you gain from related Sets.

Compared to that, Demon Hunters have to mind their aptness with archery by choosing between Odyssey’s and Calamity (hint: pick MfD- Grim). As far as I’m concerned, at any setup it’s possible to choose between Wraps of Clarity, MoC and pairing APD with Frostburn for the sake of FoK- Bladed Armor; all are viable options but you have great weapons like Dawn, Lianna’s and Fortress Ballista as well to go with it. So I reckon you ought to have at least one defensive weapon stocked in the Cube, because other slot options are very weak or not for every setup like Zoey’s belt.

Things only get complicated for Barbarians, because they have to choose between equipping 2-handed weapons with elemental damage (ie. Heart Slaughter and Bone King favored), or if survival is a concern they have to equip a shield (hint: you have a passive for that) by tossing every possible weapon with Blood Brother in the Cube.That’s something new for everyone because it defies the average dual wield fantasy of Barbarians and force them to pick between survival or more damage output. In summary, picking a 2-handed weapon, is a notable damage increase but you have to keep RoRG for defensive purposes; yet picking a shield would allow you to ignore RoRG.

There will be best builds almost every season. Next season DH and wiz gonna be top dogs. And after that nec. And after that monk. If I remember rotation correct.

Full rotation is nec - DH/wiz - Nec - monk - what ever - crusader?

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Please no. Let’s have some regularity and predictability. If anything then at least make the good seasons, with themes that benefit all (or just most?) classes and several builds, last longer. :grin:
But don’t make changes just because some players are bored. (Like: “I finished the season journey already. When will next season start?!”)

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I didn’t know only two classes could utilize unrestricted cube slots. :thinking:

Subjective opinion, most likely based on Maxroll’s solo push tier lists. There’s more to do than hunt for GR150. Have you tried achievement hunting? How about hardcore mode? What about perfecting itemization on even one spec for one class? Then branching out into other classes?

If your sole option “for fun” is limited to what you say here:

That’s very much a self-imposed limitation on how you define “fun.”

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Yes please.

For me all necro builds suck. I quit playing necro this season and switch to hardcore seasonal solo. If i see another necro ruled season theme i’m gonna start solo hc this time. At least hc has some excitement.

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I am also not a fan of this season. I am a pretty new player but the cube options for this season kind of shoehorn you into playing trag or some variety of blood nova. I get it, some people like it, but I just think it is soo boring.
Favorite seasons have been the crucibles and the soul shards, this season just bores me :frowning: because it feels too close to Non seasonal with no real added fun features. I’ll be back next season:)

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Yeah, i dropped this season after a week.

I’ve never push legendary gems up to 150 before. Currently I have all of them at 146. I never play Necromancer but I played one this season so I could solo 150. I’m doing something wrong even though I’ve copied all the guides, tested what I see other people using from the top lists and played around with paragon points as well as rolling on/off sockets on jewelry.

It appears I have a month to finish. If I were done I’d be right there with you calling for a shorter season.

I just want to be done with D3 at this point. Maxed out gems and those rainbow wings are the only things left on my to do list.

I finally gave in and bought D4. I cannot get into that game. It feels like they didn’t know what to add so they added everything. I watched a video about the five ways to improve an item and if you add the sockets at the wrong time you can never add sockets. What in the ever loving [blank] were they thinking.

tldr: I can’t have season 37 end. I’m not done yet. Once its over what do I do. There is nothing left worth doing.

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I’m with you on D4. Don’t regret buying it (at a discount) but it’s too strange for me… at least compared to D3.
Don’t give up on pushing. But maybe your focus is a bit too much on getting all gems to a certain level. Focus more on just getting a 150 down. Most players do a 150 with gems below. And then after that you may try and get the gems higher up.
I’d still say Trag’Oul’s is a bit more forgiving and less vulnerable. And also without CoE one doesn’t have to worry about timing with that. But of course no matter what Nova build one uses there has to be a lot of dancing around to survive and to get the best detonations in. The important thing is maps with with density. It doesn’t have to be the most open ones, but there has got to be elites and density, and when density thins out one has to create more by aggroing and taunting while moving, sometimes back and forth to create new density - and if that can’t be found then hurry along to find better targets, perhaps on the next map.
And also hope for luck. Like having several elite packs and then get a conduit and then a power or a shield for the boss.

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Just adding: Having Zei’s as the third gem should make a difference. The experts say that already at zero distance you get the first buff and then at 10 yards you get the next. So if each level is like 15% damage, monsters at 10 yards get 30% and at 20 yards 45%. And the novas can reach about 25 yards.
Combine this with the occasional stuns from Zei’s and Krysbin’s power and area damage and all the rest then you have almost too much power when density is high enough.
I used Bane of the Powerful a lot instead of Zei’s but in higher GR levels Zei’s is better.

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Yeah, more or less.

Another thing about Season of sanctified items is, monk is king but many other classes perform exceptionally (to name a few: strafe impaler, pony crusader, HoTA Barb, even garg wd is amazing)

Another thing about Necro is, while they obviously become op in seasons regarding cube (4th slot, or no cube restrictions), Blood Nova builds are top builds in every season in the current state of D3. Wether it’s a cube season, an ethereal season or whatever, top 10 spots in pushing tiers (if not top 5) are always taken by 3 nova builds (and 1 rathma occasionaly)

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I realize that because I’m leveling gems I’m focusing more on completing every GR not just completing one higher level every 5-8 GRs. I’m starting to think that Trag’s is really good for maps with just the right setup and Inarious is better for consistent clears of every GR.

It’s my first experience giving up consistent clears for higher peak performance. After all these years I didn’t think D3 had anything new for me but here it is.

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I don’t like to do 150’s as trag or anything blood nova because you really have to riff farm to get the right one and it can take a good 10-15 keys to get a good map. Then you are at the mercy of the mob types that spawn. I guarantee the people who have super-fast times on the LB farmed for a Orek’s dream map and got lucky with Pylons. I could only clear them if I got a good map and saved a pylon for adds to help kill the boss.

That’s how it is no matter what season/theme and what class/build we use (at least for solo play)… at least unless we have a big amount of paragon points.
I understand the annoying thing with blood nova: the need for a pylon for density for the boss.

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Agreed 100%, stopped playing this season weeks ago, and my main is always a necro.

I might have bias as Wiz, but this is my favorite season in a long while :smiley:

I do not like forbidden theme this season. It does nothing for my Frenzy Barb. I only play like 20 mins a day, it’s just such a boring season. I am ready for Ethereal Memory season next.

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