Rend Wastes Barbarian BiS (gear check)

Thank goodness there’s a handy search feature then :blush:

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For the D3 blizzard forum, you need to know the precise search terms that are specific enough not to result in too many irrelevant posts but not too specific that misses the posts that have the most relevant information.

For example searching the entire forum with “season 22 rend”, you get 44 hits. The one in the rend guide goes to a description of the gear someone used for their seasonal leaderboard clear but does not answer the questions from this thread’s creator.

Alternatively, has the season 22 info.

I just found that hilarious. Laugh out loud funny. Sorry.

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Or you can narrow your search significantly by checking the ‘Search this topic’ button when doing a search within the Rend Guide? :woman_shrugging:


You are correct. That would help narrow your search, especially after learning the thread that has the relevant information. There are still 18 hits in that thread using the the search term “Season 22”. The majority are not helpful to the questions asked.

Also, you may notice that the original poster has only made and read a few posts on the forum to date. As you gain more hands on experience, you become more knowledgeable about how to search efficiently the forum. I am glad that you let others know.

My video Rend 132 gr -

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Or you could allow this to be… A forum.

It is. Directing someone to use the search function and defer to sticky threads doesn’t take away from that one bit. In fact, it aligns with the CoC.

Morgan is right.

As Shadowdragon pointed out, not everyone knows the search function or can find specific what they search. For a forum like this, where you don’t even got a post every day, there is nothing wrong asking for help instead of being met with “buuh, go search”.

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That’s a non argument. You could just as well say, “There’s nothing wrong with pointing someone to the search function/stickied guides.” And the stickies are the first thing most folk see when they open the Barb forum. Sure, there’s nothing wrong with making a new thread and asking for help, but there’s also nothing wrong with directing those new posters to basic forum features.

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Do enlighten me what a forum is and where in the rules states, that someone is not allowed to ask questions?
There is a difference in telling people “go use the search function!” and to link to it, providing help. We have discussed this on the old forum and I won’t go further with this.
Since this forum has very little activity compared to before, when more played, there is nothing wrong asking as Op did.
This is something you do quite often here, on this section. Telling people go read somewhere. I could understand the dictation, if it was cluttered with a lot of daily posts, but it isn’t the case.
Let people ask, refer to a post if needed. Otherwise help and debate.

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Nowhere does it say that asking questions is not allowed. However, you’ll also find stickied threads like… Welcome! Please Read …which says that you should search to see if what you’re about to ask has already been answered.

The search function at the top of the community site is extremely effective and robust. Before you create a new forum topic, we recommend using search for similar topics, blog posts, or web pages that may contain the information you seek. Making a new thread on an existing subject can result in your thread being deleted or, if you continue to re-post the same content, the loss of your forum privileges for spamming.

You’ll notice that in my initial response, I provided a link to the guide, instructions for how to post links into the forums, and a tip about starting GRs with full fury, which is important for WW/Rend so you start with mitigation and buffs.

Is this considered unhelpful?


Yeah, well, as Meteor, Morgan, and I pointed out, there’s nothing wrong with either approach, and using the search function/stickies is encouraged in the CoC. It’s not about whether someone is or is not allowed to ask. You seem to have a problem with folks directing others to the search/stickies for answers to obvious questions when, you know, you shouldn’t. :man_shrugging:

I think that this implies that the information about Season 22 BiS and gear rolls is easy to find on this forum. I was expecting someone to have already linked the relevant forum post(s) that describe the BiS gear/roll choices for ww/rend that are specific to Season 22. I am pretty well-versed in finding information on the diablo 3 forums but I admit that I have struggled to find this information specifically.

Someone please feel free to link posts that they were able to find to address Season 22 BiS/rolls for ww/rend. Since the PTR started on October 1, 2020, I assume that the relevant post(s) were either created or edited after that date.

Non-season is easy. Season 20 is easy. Season 22 is more difficult. I found a post from Chris where he talks about the “top 3” season 22 ww/rend builds but it turns out the merits/relative strength is subject to later debate.

There is:
Diablo 3 Season 22 Waste WW Rend Barbarian Guide -

My response was more in the spirit of making searches easier to navigate. If you have a general idea of where you might find the information you’re looking for, you can save yourself a bit of time by searching the topic directly, rather than potentially wading through dozens of unrelated posts. If the information about what to put in my Rend build’s fourth cube slot is likely to be anywhere in the forum, it’d probably be in the big Rend guide. Maybe I wasn’t clear enough, but I hope that makes sense :blush:

Assuming I haven’t made a muddle of the links (do I ever wish I was at my PC right now!) I managed to find a few different posts from a few different people talking about possible fourth cube slot items, searching within the Rend guide using the terms ‘fourth cube’, ‘fourth slot’, and ‘season 22’. Some of them have to be read in context of prior/subsequent messages though. Hope that helps.

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You are one of the TL3s who has maintained this status over the last year and who is well-versed in the forum. I think that your linked posts demonstrate the fact that it is not easy to find Season 22 BiS ww/rend gear/rolls using only the forum.

“a” links to a post that references which has a good description to BiS gear and rolls for Season 22. This website was linked earlier in this thread as a good source of information.

“few” links to a comparison of FnR vs crimson build but does not address gear rolls.

“different” links to the gear used for a season 22 GR 122 clear. Again nothing about gear rolls. Similar information can be found by looking at the leaderboard in game where you can see many more examples where you can deduce the optimal gear rolls by inspecting many players. The issue with this is the paragon disparity between the top players and the OP.

“posts” links to a posts about F&R/MoC setup versus Crimson. Again nothing about gear rolls.

Since the question was not asked about strictly what is best, but what to rerolll in the gear that the individual already has, I assume it is about optimization in gear that may or may not have the possibility to be made optimal. So there is the whole how to make lemonade from lemons issue.

To answer your question on gear rerolls:
To push optimally, you need to hard cast rend and to have lots of area damage. Since none of year gear has area damage, I will make suggestions based on build without rend hard casts and with obsidian ring in the cube.

My suggestions are based on the provided d3planner number:

  1. Amulet: Movement speed to Critical hit damage (assuming the socket was native)
  2. Restraint: Vitality to critical hit chance (or CDR see below)
  3. Lamentation Belt: Armor to all resist
  4. Mortick’s bracer: Armor to 20% elemental damage (Physical in your setup)

Passive Change Berserker Rage to Rampage (especially given your stated difficulty in keeping fury up)

If you have problems keeping wrath of the berserker up 100%, I would suggest an addition CDR roll.

Okay, that was a bit different intake than I first got. I saw this a lot on the old forum and on this one as well. People should read pages upon pages from a sticky thread to get their replies?
Rather than people making a post. I could see the problem, if there were made several posts each day. But one asking for help? Seems a bit odd to just type “go use the search function!”.

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The simplest solution is what I’ve always encouraged: Just make a post in the stickied guide that pertains to your build. That’s it. It’s pretty simple. And the OP of most guides will answer 99% of a poster’s questions if they take the time to read it.

Ill solve all the problems for you. Gear rolls have not changed. The same BIS rolls are still intact as before. FnR or crimson the same cooldown is either wanted or needed. There is a reason the guide has not been updated. Nothing has changed!!! I have even gone over gearing options in the thread that are for season 22.

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Oh no!!! There’s two of us loitering in the Barb forums :rofl: