Quick glance to see if someone is cheating

Legit? Why was he banned for botting, using bounty bots and sneaking in basic turbohud? Hahahha

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As far as i know he got banned for th, and abusing a exploit and he was doing it on stream. Him botting were only rumours from ppl who believed u cant reach high paragon without bots. Obv we wont know as it happened years ago.

Just for comparison’s sake with this mythical bounty count to determine is someone is cheating.

I’ve 4 useable primals in my GoD set.

Frostburn- Dex, crit chance, crit dam, area dam.
GoD pants- Dex, all res, HA dam.
Depth Diggers (so I can switch in Mantle of Channeling over Frostburn by putting it in the cube and using my Dex 964 Crit Dam 49% Crit Chance 10% Area Dam 10% GoD gloves) Dex all Resist, HA Dam.
And Finally Ninth Cirri Satchel.

That last one I got just the other day by doing only 602nd bounty. All the rest are from Doing Greater Rifts and Rifts for keys.

602 bounties and 4 useable primals. So much for running 1000’s to get any kind of good build together.

Sheesh!

Exactly why I tell people to just not do them. Now imagine how much paragon you would have if you spent all that time just running GR’s.

Considering, that I’m 2549 right now and we’re only talking 24 games worth bounties. I’m guessing it’s right around 30 paragon. Not much when you consider I was running around with a non-ancient that was sort of okay but now have a primal that’s Dex, Area Dam, Cooldown, Hungering Arrow (while not perfect) it basically replace Vit, Crit Chance on my non ancient with two good alternatives.

I’d give up 30 paragon for that more than willingly.

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Point is, I only did bounties in a limited fashion focusing on one item that I absolutely needed at least a decent ancient. Getting a primal was a bonus, but I was only looking for decent ancient for the augment ability and it wasn’t dropping in Grifts.

Is that 602 what you are seeing on your profile? Just follow me on this and correct me on anything if my assumptions are wrong. If so by my estimation you should have done around 120 full clears of bounties. Which in my experience even in a bad group you should average 20 minutes per full clear. Now 120x20 minutes is 2,400 minutes so if you ran only 3 minutes runs on your god DH that is 802 GR’s. Don’t mean you be the bearer of bad news but 30 paragon is a big understatement. I would venture to say you would have gained 1000 paragon. Also GOD dhs are king at fast rifts so most can average 2 minutes easily which would give you an extra 400 GR clears. So what im telling you is if you are being efficient bounties are almost never worth it. in 800-1200 rifts I can almost guarantee that you would prefer you ā€œonly GR gearā€ over your ā€œbounty rolled gearā€ and have an exrta 1000 paragon.

Some corrections, but first a caveat…I’m choosing to play a SSF season. No grouping except for a power level I gave to a clanmate and then ran him through some GR 90’s for gear during which I was leveling gems which would have anyway.

First thing is there are 25 bounties in a full game 602/25 is just over 24 games.

Second, I’m not the most efficient of players but I’ve solo’d a lot of bounties in my time and it’s one of the better things I do in an efficient manner.

Third, I only ran bounties after spending hours running GR speeds or trying to push a GR 140 with an experimental build. Only when one or the other board enough but I still wanted to play the game.

In a situation like that, I think it’s okay to do something to break the monotony.

Thanks your right it is 25 for each full clear. Forgot they counted it like that. OK if your SSF that changes up a lot. IMO that makes the bounty way even worse just from an efficiency point of view. Your doing 5x the work in SSF. Can’t argue the need to change things up just because of boredom though. I personally spent the better part of a month farming one of my last perfect pieces on my barb. I went thru 7 primals between rerolls and upgrading rares and after giving up it dropped from a GR. It was both amazing and frustrating because I wasted so much time. This ofcourse can go both ways with RNG.

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Yeah no kidding, look at the top NA wizard, 6.5k paragon this season, cleared GR150 under 10 mins.

His Career paragon: 724. Thats not a typo, not 7240, no.
724 para, all from previous season.

Clear as day who bots and who doesnt.

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Hell the top DH is actually named after the bot he uses :’)

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As far as doing them solo instead of joining a pub when I need a break from Grifts and Rifts, I have a specific reason for that.

Most of the time, I’m pretty low on gold especially after fishing 30 or 50 keys on that 140 I was talking about and only come away with 1 or 2 that’s worth running and even those I might quit if the second map and mob type combo is bad.

If I did bounties in a group, I will wind up with more mats, this is true but a lot less gold than I would if I do the bounties solo. That and most times I just want to run 1 full bounty game in those situations when I’m bored with running Rifts or Grifts. The short break is usually enough to get me back to speeds or pushing or farming keys for either.

So, though I like the mats from doing bounties, it’s fact that you can come away with tons more gold running a build through a game of bounties than you do while farming keys. It’s the gold I’m after most of the time but like I said the mats are nice too.

However, if I joined the pubs, I’d have to take off a few gold find items to be more efficient in a bounty group. The loss of damage when I’m ā€œgold findingā€ by doing bounties is no big deal in a solo game, stuff dies just as quick. But I’d be 30 sec to a minute slower in a 4 player game.

And as another thread is talking about, if you’re slow they consider you a leacher. So there’s that. I mean, at my paragon now it isn’t a that big of difference but if you take away few hundred paragon, then the difference is noticeable.

Most times I just don’t like all the bellyaching that comes with doing bounties in a pub. ā€œOh this guy isn’t doing bounties fast enough,ā€ ā€œThat guy’s running Whimsey before the bounties are doneā€ and the Vote Kick window opens up so we kick whatever guy but now we’re still doing bounties a man short because someone always turns in the acts before they’re all complete.

Sometimes and I’m being honest here, it’s just a lot less hassle to do them solo than taking around about the same time in pubs because someone somewhere in the game decides, efficiency isn’t the point. Which most times it isn’t. The point is folks want less hassle. I get way less hassle just doing them solo.

LOL.

First thing: don’t empower when fishing. That’s a pretty big waste of gold. I empower up until I whatever the highest rift I can clear in 1-2 keys. As soon as it’s going to take 5+ keys I stop empowering, it’s not really worth the gold at that point.

Second thing: if you really want gold, just set up a vault running build with gold find on every slot. On my wizard I use LoD Frozen Orb with 55k gold find. And it’s not a vault leech build, I run solo so it’s still a fully functional build that can 1-2 shot Greed. With LoD it’s easy to fit more gold find items, e.g. Sun Keeper, Goldskin, Leoric’s Crown + Emerald + Broken Crown, Squirt’s/Kymbo’s (technically Kymbo’s is best since it rolls up to 100 instead of 80 on Squirt’s/other amulets, but I usually just use Squirt’s because it’s easier), then Gold Find rolls on every other piece. I keep some extra pieces that either rolled gold find natively or are worse than my main gear and I can ā€œruinā€ them by rolling gold find on them.

I have 45b excess gold playing mostly solo (except bounties). Just from running all the puzzle rings I find (regular + ancient). I did upgrade rings for a while (was looking for upgrades to CoE, Karini, and Unity all at once) so I had some extra puzzle rings from that, but still.

Running puzzle rings definitely isn’t the most efficient thing to do compared to grinding GRs. But it is more efficient than running solo bounties to gold farm.

I imagine you could set up something similar with a LoD DH, maybe Multishot or HA with Raven’s Wing. Or just use a bunch of UE or GoD pieces with gold find rolled on them, but then you’ll lose out on at least one of Goldskin/Leoric’s/Broken Crown.

My gold find build is what I use on Vaults too so that works. Most of the time, I don’t empower when I’m fishing, but every once in a while I might spend 30 keys or so and empower just in case one pops. I don’t group, so there’s no way for me to get a gem to 150, so every gem level on my pushing set up is precious. I’ve got a 140 Simplicity’s, but Teaguk and BotT are both only 137. So when I can, I like to empower just so I might add a level or 2 to Simplicity’s and maybe one to one of the others or both. But 60% chance is far from guaranteed.

But yes, I don’t empower when I’m pushing all the time. Just when I get around 30 Billion or so, and only down to 20 or 15 billion or so.

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But right now, I’m just paragon farming and don’t feel it necessary to empower any of the GRifts I’m running because it’s either level up the gems the I have or do those quicker and put those on another character and level new ones too.

I figure 4 guaranteed 100% upgrades is just as good as 5 right now. After I get all my gems to 110, then I might start putting them away on other characters and level more. Just doing lots of lots of GR 120’s for right now. I need 400 paragon to reach my goal so there’s going to be a lot of them.

You really don’t need to do bounties and it is not efficient to spend a lot of time on them.