New Season leveling

General Discussion
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OK, checking the SOLO leaderboards and wondering how people are getting to 150 or close to it in less than 24 hours of play? That seems really crazy.

Can anyone tell me how someone can do that?

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The season theme is really strong for the Necromancer. The top players will complete a GR150 in roughly 20 hours, give or take. (Just not everyone plays 20+ hours for the season start.)

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“People” as in the general public, aren’t.

“People” as in a few dedicated necro players, are. It’s entirely possible to do it legit when season theme benefits the class being played as much as this one benefits necro. I was online last night to witness the shoutout of someone clearing GR75 solo, Americas region first, within roughly 2 hours of season going live. At that time, I had barely dinged level 70. I thought to myself, “welp, that’s why I’m a casual-leaning player, lol”

plus

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The funny thing is it isn’t. Necros can level faster with several themes. For this season it just a bit easier for necros and a lot worse for everyone else.

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Congrats on a few EU firsts (with your team, I assume?!)!

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Thank you. Yes, it couldn’t have been done without a team, unless you get lucky with an Aether Walker. Or just ridiculously lucky and gamble 2 Firebirds pieces to skip the bounties.

That’s pretty much my last goal, is <90 minutes into the season with a Sprinter/Speed Racer completion. But it requires getting an Aether Walker, and most likely one other player to handle being a towner & secondary runner as well as dps. They don’t necessarily need Sprinter speed, just know the campaign well enough that they get to crucial spots to save the runner a bit of time.

But at this point in the game’s life, it’s just hard to get people with Sprinter knowledge and leveling knowledge.

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Why does that save you bounties?
My sorc experience so far is a Tal Meteor sorc when Tal was the Haedrig’s gift.

I would volunteer for next season, but I very much lack knowledge reg. efficient leveling and Sprinter. I have done the latter twice, with a GoD DH and FotH Sader when they were Haedrig’s gifts. But failed twice or thrice on a necro last season.

EDIT: I mixed up Sprinter and the 20 min boss thingie, my bad! I’m clueless about Sprinter.

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The 4-piece Firebirds set is all that’s needed to run Sprinter & Speed Racer. It’s not a fast clear by any means, but sub 1 hour is still sub one hour.

The goal here, for a super-fast Sprinter or Speed Racer is to have a couple people running bounties (the game level doesn’t matter) while you have a runner (Wizard) and dps character level up as quickly as possible. (With 4 players, a 4-piece Firebirds is just not going to have the dps to carry.) The target time to 70 should preferably be sub 30 minutes to 70. At which point, you just have 4 bosses to run and a rift, to unlock the 4-piece Firebirds. The Wizard would run the 4 bosses while the dps character would start on a rift in the bounty game and help with the completion of the rest of the bounties, so that when the Wizard completes the 4 bosses, they can be ready to go.

Done perfectly, they can have their first 3 Chapters completed within 40 minutes of the Season Start. And with a team who knows what the campaign, 50 minutes is possible. (Our America’s time was 49 minutes for Speed Racer). So, if things go well, 40 minutes for the leveling portion, 49 minutes for the campaign, sub 90 minutes into the season should be doable.

Hey, if you’re up for it, help is always appreciated. As mentioned, the bounty portion pretty much doesn’t require much knowledge of leveling. The key is that the runner & dps players know how to level.

The next time for Sprinter is Season 39, and should be Raiment, which is much faster to run the campaign in.

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blush
I actually mixed upt the 20min boss thing and Sprinter … :frowning:

alright, keep me in your memory. 2 more seasons (would be 4 and 5 for me - I don’t count my first one, was too clueless then) should help me improve. Maybe. :wink:

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As you said. It could not have been done without a team.

I was looking at the Solo Leaderboard. If you are running Solo, you don’t have a team.

So, I am not saying that they are cheating, but I find it questionable.

I am curios how you get a full set of Armor that is not even the one provided by the season reward fully kitted to Ancient is less than 24 hours. (Or even 48 hours) .

If it is legit, I am curious how you do that. I am still struggling with getting the season reward armor set complete in Solo mode in day 3.

Thanks

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As mentioned, it can be done without a team. In fact, the fastest Sprinter record is 1h48m into the season, done SSF by TinneOnnMuin. You just need an Aether Walker or to get lucky gambling 2 extra pieces of Firebirds/Raiment during those seasons (or 1 piece, and happen to get lucky with an RRoG).

Below are the fastest SSF Times for each conquest (that was completed in under 4 hours).

Conquest Time Server Season
Avarice 3h19m Europe 33
Boss Mode 2h28m Americas 34
Curses 3h31m Americas 37
Divinity 2h2m Europe 31
On a Good Day 2h49m Americas 30
Speed Demon 2h17m Americas 33
Sprinter 1h48m Europe 31
The Thrill 1h10m Asia 37
Avaritia 3h50m Europe 31
World’s Apart 2h40m Asia 34
Stars Align 3h47m Asia 33
Lionhearted 2h38m Asia 30
I Can’t Stop 3h46m Europe 31
Need for Speed 2h42m Asia 30
Speed Racer 3h50m Asia 37
Super Human 1h32m Americas 37

As far as getting a full set of armor, if you’re rushing, I average my first set roughly about 5 hours into the season. This is without using Haedrig’s, which I typically save for Hardcore.

You’d basically farm blood shards and gamble pants & shoulders depending on the set, as these have the best odds from Kadala, and convert them.

Once you have the 6-piece, you’d farm Visions and can reroll items into ancient. A full set of Ancients can be done in about 10-12 hours.

The main thing is, just don’t stand still, i.e. town is lava.

For example, don’t identify after a Greater Rift. Run 3 Greater Rifts in a row. And you can start teleporting back to town while upgrading your gems, without about 2-3 upgrades left. Like, if you’re running 2-minute Greater Rifts with 30 seconds in town, that’s 7.5 minutes normally. Incorporate those two tricks, and now you’ve taken it down to 6.5 minutes, or roughly shaving 15% of your total play time. So, now that 24 hours of playtime becomes 21 hours.

Just small stuff like that adds up.

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You kinda are, though. As Benjen Stark once said:

“My brother once told me, nothing a man says before the word ‘but’ really counts.” ~ Game of Thrones

It also seems to me like you’re really only questioning it because you personally cannot do it yourself:

That’s a logical fallacy; the fact that you cannot, does not mean others cannot.

Look, I hate cheaters in multiplayer games as much as the next guy. However I don’t see unreasonable data at present time. I see a very small number - less than 10 people last I checked - achieving something that’s only noteworthy because it requires knowledge and dedication.

I’m not saying they aren’t cheating, but I find the accusation questionable.

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Sorry, I did not accuse them of cheating. I said I did not know how they were doing it. I even said, I don’t want to accuse anyone of cheating.

I have to note that BehindTimes gave concise information on how they were possibly accomplishing getting though so quickly.

I specifically said - can anyone tell me how they did it?

There was a large amount of cheating at one point some time ago. But I don’t really want to compare myself to those players, but learning more tricks on the best way to get to the goal a bit faster when I get a little frustrated was my deal.

So, thanks. It seems to me the players and the boards are much more cordial than they used to be. That is a good thing.

Thank you Dimlhugion. And everyone else for their responses.

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Don’t worry, I (hope) I understood what you were originally saying, and didn’t take offense.

I understand that there was cheating before.

Part of the problem here, and I’m not trying to be rude (but will probably come off as such) is that the well-known Diablo 3 sites and streamers don’t give the best advice when it comes to efficiency.

And I have all my strategies, tips & tricks, mapped out with actual playthroughs, on Reddit and YouTube. I don’t hold any super-secret strategy or give out advice and do something completely opposite myself.

Updated Seasonal Start Mega Guide : diablo3

(Sprinter though is something better to ask someone like TinneOnnMuin or go to the speedrun website to get an idea of how to efficiently run it. I can complete Sprinter & Speed Racer, but am not super-efficient with it, vs something like leveling, which I hyper-optimize.)

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Fun fact barbs dont need necro to 1-70,i always start season barb and 1-70 is 20-27 min

Lvling lod barb to gr70 is 2-3h

This is best way to get divinity and lionheart on barb (ofc if u start season when start,i from EU and starting US next day)

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Some are live streaming their season journey to 150. Wudijo did (I didn’t watch). He got a 150 clear over the weekend in the SSF HC mode. He did so last season too.

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Meanwhile it’s taking at least one of us 3 hours to hit 70th level. God I f—ing hate this s–t. How many seasons do I have to play until the rewards become redundant?

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3 hours isn’t bad, though. I know what I’m doing and it still took me a smidgen over 2.

I think part of it is to not lose sight of realistic expectations. If you can’t or otherwise won’t treat this game like it’s your primary job, you can’t expect to compete with those who do. That’s just the way of things. We can enjoy swimming in a pool, but most of us aren’t Olympians. You feel me?

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because they have fewer legendaries than other body parts?
Or is there another reason?

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Correct, because there are fewer pieces.

Limiting the amount of items you’re after can give you a faster start to the season, and not just for set pieces. For example, several classes use an Aquilla Cuirass. If you get a character whose Level 23-30, you’d now only need 1661 blood shards for a 99% chance of acquiring one. Compare that if you’re Level 70, where you’d need 3375 for a 50% chance. Yes, it would go into the cube, but the faster you can get to higher difficulty levels, the faster you get Death’s Breaths, Blood Shards, etc.

Optimizing usage of Kadala can shave hours off the time it takes you to be able to complete your set and/or be able to farm T16.

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