Thanks! I didn’t even know you could do that! I might insert that into the OP at a later date!
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Why nobody is talking about Band of Might-Ring? After casting Furious Charge, Ground Stomp or Leap (i use this) the damage is reduced by 69% for 8! seconds. As a hc barb i prefer this insead of CoE. And im wearing Aquila Cuirass Breastplate for another 50% DR. And instead of Pain Enhancer gem im using Gogok. So, in the cube i must use Ring of Royal Grandeur. With this build i have 1.2 billion toughness as long as Wrath of the Berserker is up. (Season 17)
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For HC play, Band of Might isn’t a bad option. The problem is, you’re gimping your DPS if you also use Aquila and RoRG. You can’t make up the damage you lost from COE and Zodiac + PE provides far more cooldown than Gogok. In other words, while you have to prioritize survival in HC, you also can’t afford to cripple your damage output.
It looks like you’re going for the Lightning Istvan’s variant, so I recommend you do the following:
- Follow the build guide in the OP for your variant.
- If you’re nervous, swap COE for Band of Might, and swap War Cry for Furious Charge (Cold Rush to Proc Parthans).
- Always use all diamonds in gear.
- Always use Parthans.
Right now, it looks like you’re struggling to get the right/good gear, so DO NOT PUSH GRs until you get your build in order.
Good luck!
This build can be tricky
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Hey everyone.
Did a massive update to the guide today. Overall, it’s now much shorter, and better organized, and I think it’s now much easier to read and understand. I plan on adding D3 Planner links in the near future, but that will have to wait.
Let me know what you think.
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A few questions for Templar-
- is stacking + Phys Damage beneficial?
2)Weapons choice- does increase weapons damage produce more kills to get more occulus bubbles?
Which weapon should my Templar use?
A) Skysplitter Axe- primal 3634 dps (10% dam, 1000 str, IAS 7%) + 270 dam ruby- weap ability is 20% chance to smite (600 - 750% weap dam)
B) Sever- primal 3345 dps (max dam, str, IAS) w/ diamond for 10% vs elites- +10% vs demons (do emost elites and RGs qualify as demons?) innate- dead rest in pieces
C) sunkeeper (only ancient)- 1422-1758 dam, +26% elite + 20% (diamond) = +46%
red CD 9% (rolled)
D)Doombringer (seems to be very good ancient) 2894 dps, +20% phys red CD 10%, IAS 7%, 832 str- not yet socketed (but have 250 gifts) or rolled
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Hi Lenny,
Templar’s damage is effectively zero no matter what weapon you give him. Oculus ring procs from him when YOU kill an enemy, the templar doesn’t have to do the killing.
If you want the templar to provide some modest CC, equip him with Ess of Johan, Thunderfury, Freeze of Deflection, and Wyrdward. If you just want oculus circles, you could just use Oculus ring, the invulnerability templar relic, and nothing else.
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Hi Lenny.
Don’t overthink your follower. Everything you need to know is covered in the OP. Your templar is only there to proc Oculus and occasionally heal you a bit and keep your Fury topped up. Stack CDR and attack speed on his gear, and make sure he has the Immortal token.
If you’re using Parthans, do not let your follower proc any CC. Hard CC will detract from your Freeze, and soft CC will slow mobs down. Again, no CC effects from Follower!
I am not here to brag or steal Free’s thread but with his help and opinions from a few others i have managed to secure myself as #1 ww barb on s17 ladder at #205, gr106.
Top WW Barb - GR 106, Rank #205 NA Seasonal Leaderboards
I decided to play Whirlwind for s17, the slowest build of all in my opinion. I do not expect anyone to actually care but my goal was to be the #1 ww barb on the season leaderboards and see how far i can get. I beleive i am securely sitting at the top ww barb rank #205.
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Is 106 really the top ww barb? I find that hard to believe. I did a 105 without any fishing.
incase you dont beleive me go ahead and inspect everyone above me (#205 on the leaderboards) you will notice none are playing whirlwind.
Unfortunately, the way the leaderboard works is if a barb used whirlwind to complete a 110 and also used another build to do a 115, only the 115 would show up. As such, you may be the highest whirlwind clear or alternatively, you may be the highest whirlwind clear for only players who did not use another build to surpass the “whirlwind” greater rift level.
I personally have advocated for 6 piece class set specific and LoN leaderboards so you can see how you stack up for a given build.
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I don’t really get why or who your trying to explain how the leaderboards work but in case you did not know, someone who’s been playing whirlwind literally the whole league simply will not just switch to another build to compete with whomever. I am sorry if that gives you a reason to dislike my leadership in the build. I had a goal, and I made it clear. You can either side with me and agree, or disagree.
Congratulations on your accomplishment. It is not a matter of siding with you or against you. I clearly said that you could be the #1 whirlwind barb this season or not based on how the leaderboard works. I do question your assumption (you probably recall the old cliché about “assume”) that no one would switch between builds that achieve high greater rift clears.
What I said is similar to the feedback I received about demon hunters and crusader and wizards not being part of the 4 man meta leaderboard with the exception of 2 in 1000 cases. Someone accurately pointed out that these classes could have been represented more but people beat their personal best with another class. Do I think that there are ton of people who fit this? No. The same is likely true for your accomplishment.
If we had a class set and LoN specific leaderboard as I and others have suggested, we would know for sure.
Edit: See Free post of few down that confirmed my suspicion
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This has nothing to do with lon, but if it makes you feel better then sure. I guess ill just keep pushing it casually.
edit: New update. Currently sitting at #166, WITH WHIRLWIND.
Congrats on your clear, my friend! That’s a good clear for 1300 Paragon, and I love to see players pushing with the build even if it takes more fishing than other builds!
Unfortunately, it’s not even close to the Season’s top WW build. SoLucky cleared 119 back on 7/1. Check the archive for a video link: [Archive] Barbarian Greater Rift Clear Videos
Good luck with the pushes, and next time, record a video so I can post it!
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Thanks bud but if im not mistaken he plays on EU. Im on NA. I would really love to go higher. I just dont have the time. I had to take a break mid way through the league. I don’t think i have enough time to make major progress. Maybe ill have some more time in s18. Currently sitting at #166 on the leaderboards of NA. at gr107 completion.
So how do we feel about morticks instead of APDs for early game when we don’t have stun/freeze yet? Obviously for top pushes the APD defense bonus in density can’t be beat, but I’m thinking early season the flat striding giant bonus might be worth it for the consistency? Maybe easier than ground stomp for new players?
Since you need density to kill anyway, once you have the gear to proc APDs I know it wouldn’t be worth it, and it might build bad non density gathering habbits.
Thoughts?
Just updated the guide and directly addressed this. Here’s the relevant addition:
Bracer Choice: There are four different bracers that you’ll want to use in this build. Each has a different purpose as described below:
- Nems: The best bracers for speed-farming T16 and low GRs (2-4 minute clears) once you have enough Paragon and Augments to survive incoming damage.
- Strongarms: Only worth using if you have Ground Stomp (Wrenching Smash) on the bar. This boosts your DPS when pushing, but you’ll have much less mitigation than using Mortick’s or Parthans. Use this when you have enough toughness to tank incoming damage but are having problems getting enough DPS to spawn the RG in time.
- Mortick’s: Your second best option for speed-farming T16 and low GRs is this item. It offers much more toughness and healing than Nems, but can’t compare to Parthans when pushing higher, end-game GRs. Think of this item as the second-best option for pushing GRs if you don’t have much Paragon or can’t get the secondary rolls necessary to proc Parthans. Just don’t be fooled by the hype–this item is not the best-in-slot bracer for pushing.
- Parthans: This item is, hands down, the best bracer for pushing GRs, as it offers far more damage reduction than Mortick’s. While this item is all but useless for speed-farming T16 or low GRs, it is absolutely essential when you master the build and want to push as high as you can go.
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Thanks, that’s pretty much in line with what I was thinking, but a more thorough overview!