Congratulations on your accomplishment. It is not a matter of siding with you or against you. I clearly said that you could be the #1 whirlwind barb this season or not based on how the leaderboard works. I do question your assumption (you probably recall the old cliché about “assume”) that no one would switch between builds that achieve high greater rift clears.
What I said is similar to the feedback I received about demon hunters and crusader and wizards not being part of the 4 man meta leaderboard with the exception of 2 in 1000 cases. Someone accurately pointed out that these classes could have been represented more but people beat their personal best with another class. Do I think that there are ton of people who fit this? No. The same is likely true for your accomplishment.
If we had a class set and LoN specific leaderboard as I and others have suggested, we would know for sure.
Edit: See Free post of few down that confirmed my suspicion
Thanks bud but if im not mistaken he plays on EU. Im on NA. I would really love to go higher. I just dont have the time. I had to take a break mid way through the league. I don’t think i have enough time to make major progress. Maybe ill have some more time in s18. Currently sitting at #166 on the leaderboards of NA. at gr107 completion.
So how do we feel about morticks instead of APDs for early game when we don’t have stun/freeze yet? Obviously for top pushes the APD defense bonus in density can’t be beat, but I’m thinking early season the flat striding giant bonus might be worth it for the consistency? Maybe easier than ground stomp for new players?
Since you need density to kill anyway, once you have the gear to proc APDs I know it wouldn’t be worth it, and it might build bad non density gathering habbits.
Just updated the guide and directly addressed this. Here’s the relevant addition:
Bracer Choice: There are four different bracers that you’ll want to use in this build. Each has a different purpose as described below:
Nems: The best bracers for speed-farming T16 and low GRs (2-4 minute clears) once you have enough Paragon and Augments to survive incoming damage.
Strongarms: Only worth using if you have Ground Stomp (Wrenching Smash) on the bar. This boosts your DPS when pushing, but you’ll have much less mitigation than using Mortick’s or Parthans. Use this when you have enough toughness to tank incoming damage but are having problems getting enough DPS to spawn the RG in time.
Mortick’s: Your second best option for speed-farming T16 and low GRs is this item. It offers much more toughness and healing than Nems, but can’t compare to Parthans when pushing higher, end-game GRs. Think of this item as the second-best option for pushing GRs if you don’t have much Paragon or can’t get the secondary rolls necessary to proc Parthans. Just don’t be fooled by the hype–this item is not the best-in-slot bracer for pushing.
Parthans: This item is, hands down, the best bracer for pushing GRs, as it offers far more damage reduction than Mortick’s. While this item is all but useless for speed-farming T16 or low GRs, it is absolutely essential when you master the build and want to push as high as you can go.
Let me know if i’m dumb, but the update to the patch said CC immunity means the movement AND attack speed slow are canceled on Stone Gauntlets. Do you think putting on those and using WoTB to immune the negative side effects means we could lose all other defenses and run a full Yolo, max damage WW? Am i just doing that thing where i’m in love and trying to justify playing ww, or is this potentially a thing?
But all it grants is 50% more Armor. It’s not 50% DR and has none of the healing of IP, and anyway, where would Stone Gauntlets go? In the Cube? But then you lose Mantle, which means you lose 25% multiplicative damage. Bad trade.
For low para players like myself, starting to push end game a viable option over the furnace in cube is EF now, I love the extra speed and my sheet damage jumped to over 10m at one point.
I only concern myself with speed clears as i mostly farm solo or with another from my clan.
I cover a similar setup in the Speed-Farming section, but Strongarms is not optimal. You’ll be better off with Nems for Torment and for pushing, you don’t want the knockback effect. For pushing, Parthans >>>>>>>> everything.
There was a player–Evenstar, I believe–who used to push WW with Bravado and Strongarms, but that was a long time ago and nowhere near the potential of WW.
Does Mortick Brace’s WotB Slaughter rune adds bane of the stricken stacks every time it explodes? The description says it has a chance to cause explosion every critical hit so I am not sure how consistent is that or is that negligible damage. Considering WW as a build did a lot of hits per second.
Edit: Sorry for the wording, it might be a little confusing… what I meant by the damage is the damage gained from the extra stricken stacks and not the dmg from the explosion itself which is negligible.
I just got a not so bad …The Flavor of Time amulet… not a perfect roll… elemental, chd, no chc… should I replace my eye of etlich that has elem, chd, chc with that?