it won’t. The only DPS worthy items that emanate on followers is nem bracers and FOT ammy…
So, this just screws s6 impale DH players even more…I don’t know why Blizzard just doesn’t nerf the set bonuses for the build to completely kill it off lol.
lol!!! I wonder if nem bracer generated dervishes are the secret PVP mechanic in the game then…
Okay, but since Strongarm provides dmg buff for the whole team when proced by the wearer, it should be enough that the follower does a pull or knockback? Assuming that the follower is a team member equal to another player, ofc, which might not be true.
but the follower wearing them won’t proc for me as the player…that’s the issue.
Oh, I don’t know…lemme see…
rank 3 in s19 (DH, HC, PS4) - s6 impale, p1200ish on highest clear (121)
rank 19 in s20 (DH, HC, PS4) - s6 impale, p1200ish on highest clear (124)
only beaten by the group players with MEGA paragon and they were all playing GOD HA too, which is like what, 15 GRs stronger than impale…even with the 2.7 nerf, GOD HA was still stronger than impale by around 5 GRs…
so, I think I do alright thank you.
PS those clears put me in a similar rank on the US PC LBs…
edit: I played DMO twister wiz in s22 for something different - just wasn’t gonna bust a gut to try and rank on the HC LBs when GOD HA is so much more powerful and group players can come into the solo LBs and mug the solo players…plus, I hardly played in s22, cos hey, sick of the lack of balance in this game and group favouritism. It’s a real turn off. I’ve done a 125 in NS (SC) with 6 minutes to spare, so pretty sure I could do a 128, possibly a 129 with fishing, and p2700 is low compared to what the other guys were getting in season in s19/s22 that finished above me on the LB (they were p4500+). Plus, NS lacks the seasonal buffs, which is 2-3 GRs typically…as I said, i think I do alright thank you very much. Probably far better than you do mate.
Never noticed it as a problem. Probably because the only time I played the Gears Demon Hunter was in a two-person group and the spintop Barbie pulled the pylon with Nemesis equipped. Gears is a very squishy build in my limited experience. Only useful for absolute speed. They don’t even need the pylons unless the map is spread wide; even with trash, they can fill the progress bar fast.
it doesn’t affect gears, that’s why you’ve never noticed it. I agree, gears feels very squishy to me and that’s with running fortress ballista and elusive in the cube. I’m new to the build though and still have a lot to learn, so…
Maybe I’ve been lucky then but never had a death caused from using Nemesis Bracers. Any elite pack that dares appear gets popped in the face with Fan of Knives.
You’re using perhaps the only popular build that has a problem with Dervish reflects. Any reflect death you face can come from a normal dervish too. If you look before you jump perhaps, as in not auto attacking as you click the shrine/pylon you can diminish that error. If you’re so hasty to take on elites the picosecond you click on the Pylon; maybe you should heed the warning and slow down abit or face some consequences when you don’t.
Just tell developers what you want but thinking for years they didn’t change dervishes, I’ll not bet on them changing this soon. They always surprise me by adding weird imbalanced things or retract their “mistake” so you’re welcome to try. Keep in mind if they’re contempt with that risk stakes standing for the Impale build then they won’t budge.
Give them an alternate direction instead and they might be happy to oblige. Strongarm bracers can be a thing, more absorb capabilities or a secondary cheat death embed (Followers already give you this now) in can be a thing as well.
Adding Chakram to S6 set then changing some low grade legendary item such as Cloak of Deception to synergize with Cloud of Shurikens to make you phase away from projectiles?
I think we went over this before, S6 benefits everything from passively and interaction is linear, that’s why GoD6 was a step ahead with quickly decaying buffs. Back then, S6 was well over 5 GRs compared to rest of the DH Sets and you weren’t complaining, did you?
That’s the game play cycle. If you don’t leave it behind, developers do that for you because they have to keep the balance by considering effort requirement, windup and many other elements that I can’t possibly name.
That’s part of trying to participate in a yard stick race; you’ll never be happy with controlled environment and everyone has their own tastes and favorites. Complaining about GoD6 didn’t get nerfed enough for your favorite build to shine is weird way to look at things begin with.
Strongarm Bracers proc for the group, so you do get advantage if you gear your follower with them.
The issue with Nems and Shadow are the same if your follower uses them, or if a member of a group you are in uses them. You either work around it, or skip that elite pack.
You don’t have to use Nems on your follower. The reflect issue from spinners and sand dwellers is not a ‘balance’ issue so much as a lack of attention to DH issue.
I do run Shadow, a lot. And my current S6 follower does not use Nems because I don’t like dealing with spinners, but I do like the other buffs in the new follower system. Endless Walk with FoT is pretty awesome.
They use a mighty belt that gives all runes to Frenzy, which includes Sidearm (a piercing, thrown axe) that is treated as a projectile. It’s just as easy for a Barb to kill themselves with this as an Impale DH with their knives.
Duh, you don’t think I do that? The issue is 3/4 of pylons I will have to skip the auto generated elites…this cuts down my clear time, doesn’t it? Meanwhile, other builds can take full advantage of the elites that have been spawned and generate faster clear times…sounds fair, doesn’t it?
The actions of using nem bracers should affect ALL BUILDS equally, or none. Not just selectively cripple 1 or 2 builds…
back in s10 yes. LON RF was ahead of s6 impale. So was M6 sentry. UE MS CCR was perhaps 2 GRs behind s6 impale, but very close. These days N6 RF outperforms s6 impale by a few GR and GOD HA is well ahead by a country mile. BTW, I didn’t play s6 impale until mid s11.
if the problem only affects 1 build and not the rest, isn’t that a balance issue? Balance means everything works equally, for everything…
Thank you, i was trying to remember the other build that was affected by using nem bracers.
I’ll go and test and see…my guess is that it probably does since projectiles are involved, but it won’t One shot you with instadeath like it does with s6 impale.
The main problem here is that Nemesis Bracers do not spawn an Elite pack at the Pylon or Shrine, they spawn it at the character. And most of the time, the Elites attack immediately.
A death due to this situation in normal gameplay is inconvenient and annoying, but in hard-core it’s unacceptable.
Therefore, I never use Nemesis Bracers in hard-core gameplay.
That statement seems contradictory to me. Obviously, with Nemesis Bracers equipped, Elites spawn both, at the Shrine/Pylon and at your Character because your Character has to run up to the Shrine/Pylon to click on it. (No matter what Class or build you play).
It’s not like you can activate it from a distance. (Unless you mean one of your teammates clicked on the Shrine/Pylon and the Elites spawned on you while you were standing a screen away. That would be strange since the Elites should spawn on your teammate).
It can be observed, especially with a very fast character, when you hit the Pylon or Shrine as you run past, you will see that the Elite spawns at your character location, rather than where the Pylon was.
That wouldn’t be so much trouble except that they usually attack the instant they appear, and if they hit you hard enough, or your defenses are down, you’re dead.
I wasn’t actually telling the whole truth when I said I never use these Bracers in hard-core, because for farming, when I am equipped with the Avarice Band, Goldwrap, and Boon of the Hoarder, I use those Bracers to complete rifts more quickly, because with a couple billion Toughness, the Elites can’t hurt you.
I’ve also developed a technique where they very often miss me, because I run northward past the pylon, clicking it as I go by. I will usually be out of range by the time the Elites manifest and attack. But if you just stand there and click the thing, you’re in trouble.
And speak of the devil, I just picked up a pair of Primal Nemesis Bracers.
I actually think you have more control with impale. I wear nem while playing imp and when I see those monster types, I only take them on if it’s a speed run when I can kill them fast. If it’s a push run, I only take them on if they spawned off a shield pylon, conduit or power. With conduit and power, you just have to stop attacking when they spin.
So you can still have your followers use nem vs equipping it yourself , just have to be more careful. But the best thing they can do is vary the monsters that spawns from nemesis so it decreases the chance it’ll be dervishes/sand dwellers.
If you’re talking about Dervishes and Sand Dwellers, they do very much affect GoD. As a GoD you’re constantly shooting out projectiles so how can it not affect it?
In high GR, when I see that stuff I just run away.
I agree, gears feels very squishy to me and that’s with running fortress ballista and elusive in the cube. I’m new to the build though and still have a lot to learn, so…