I didn’t know Season 37 started this week; as such, I completed the CR.
Without the CR, what’s the fastest way to progress: doing Nephalim Rifts or the Demon Portal thingies (sorry, can’t remember the name, right now).
Best,
J
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Temple of the First Born and, Halls of Agony level 3, to get massacre bonus. I was watching a starter guide and he went into one of the portals and he get wrecked lol.
Also though you don’t get much gear doing massacre. Rifts will get you way better gear but slower overall leveling.
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ToTFB, HoA3, do the Altar of Rites to unlock all lvl gearing, get strong weapon and lvl fast.
If you kill Zoltun Kulle at lvl 18 on expert he will drop gems for altar.
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I’m sorry, what do those abbreviations mean?
Also, can’t I kill Zoltun Koolaid on a lower level then open it at lvl 18 to get said gems?
Every act has some area with high monster density and very aggressive spawns. You either pick those spots or consider what is close to where you can loot Staff of Herding materials or common Reusable Parts to convert.
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As others have said, leveling quickly typically involves farming high monster density zones. HoA3 = Halls of Agony level 3, ToTFB = Temple of the Firstborn.
I know when you spawn into a zone, enemies within that zone are locked into your current level but I’m not sure if boss chests (or even chests in general) follow the same protocol. If they do, then you’d have to wait until level 18 to guarantee gems dropping from the boss chest.
Whether with CR or without though, the general idea is to farm massacre bonuses while working towards unlocking the altar node that removes level requirements on items. Then, you simply forge the highest level stuff you can which will allow you to blast through things.
You probably mean the Visions portals. I would actually advise heavily against running those on your first leveling toon because the mobs in there scale well beyond your game’s difficulty level. Furthermore, the odds of getting a truly insurmountable floor (like triple bosses or all elites) is rather high, and even an all gobbo floor won’t be as good as it seems since you’ll struggle to kill them quickly enough without level 70 weaponry.
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Start in adventure mode.
Temple of the Firstborn it’s in ACT II
Halls of Agony level 3 it’s in ACT I
When you reach character level 18 kill Zoltan Kulle as needed. It can be any boss but Zoltan is easiest. You need to be proper level to get the right gems. Take the ACT II waypoint to Archives of Zoltan Kulle. Kill him grab the gems. Combine two diamonds at the jeweler.
Use one flawless diamond, 15 arcane dust, and 20 reusable parts to open the Anointed node at the Altair of Rites in New Tristram to ignore item levels. Craft a level seventy weapon and kill everything.
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Go to maxroll.gg/D3 under resources tab, go to “level 1-70” and it will tell you everything you need to know about leveling without a cache.
Even if you’re not planning to play a Necromancer, follow the guide and start with one. Trust me, it much faster and easier.
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Read the two posts above yours.
- ToTFB = Temple of the Firstborn (Or TotFB).
- HoA3 = Halls of Agony Level 3 (Although, probably should be: HoAL3).
Gems won’t drop until Character Level 18. Unless you’re lucky enough to kill a Gem Hoarder Goblin. (Oops. Already covered by @Dimlhugion).
You also want to make sure you have the Act II Bounty: Kill Zoltun Kulle. The Gems come from the Diabolic Hoard Chest. Not from Kulle.
You can do this with any Boss Bounty. It’s just that Zoltun Kulle is the easiest and fastest to get to.
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This information is highly valuable.
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iirc it can be even normal difficulty.
I leveled very slow took me about four hours. I didn’t take the challenge rift cache. So I’ll be able to sacrifice it to the Altar.
I didn’t have enough gold to craft the level 70 weapon and armor. I made mid range weapons and armor and around level 60+ I got the 70 weapon.
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“Fastest”, while objective, also is subject to nuance and a million footnotes and exceptions.
For instance, fastest might be RNG dependent. The fastest leveling could not be the most consistent leveling.
Second, do you really want the fastest run? Or do you want a to have fun playing? What most people want is not the objectively fastest approach, rather, they want something good enough. I might just want to play Crusader to 70, I don’t want to worry about using a Necromancer to this spot, switching to Crusader during this spot, switching to DH during this spot, switching back to Necromancer then Crusader, etc.
Also, what might be the fastest approach might not be the best for you. Sometimes, you’ll watch a demonstration video of a person leveling one way, and you try it, and might not understand the nuance of why they do what they do, and thus it doesn’t level you nearly as quickly. Or you don’t have the skill to do what they do. Etc.
For one reason or another, the methods just don’t work for you. I’ve seen fast levelers state that one method is faster than another, while at the same time, another player state that the other method is faster. And it’s not that either is necessarily wrong, they just work better for the individual player.
And it’s not just leveling, it’s what you’re after. Do you want to be the first person to GR150? Do you want to be crushing conquests or the season journey? Do you just want to hit Level 70? Etc. Depending upon your goals, there might be different approaches you need to take.
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i just farm for staff parts while i lvl. i had a gibbering gemstone at lvl 26 hehe
might not be the fastest to 70 but it saves hours later
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I only play HC and only play Impale DHs and I only do Demon Portal thingies on Normal from level 1 on and hope I’d be able to 1-shot all the gobs when I get a gob convention.
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I did T6 Halls of Agony level 1 Cleavers. Y’know making the environment kill the enemies, did that to level 13 when I got my Crusader mobility Pony. Then, I went and got the cube. I was lucky and got my two diamonds from a goblin in Ruins area for the cube. After that I did massacre, with a few rifts. Basically changing difficulty if I got an upgrade
I was able to clear a few Enmities. That surprised me.
Basically if I, lost my massacre streak, and it ended early I would leave game and start a new. The XP difference between one 300 streak or if I’m lucky a 500 is astronomical compared to just getting like a 50-100 streak.
I don’t know though. Maybe taking longer to level and actual do the Season Journey would’ve saved me some time going from level 1 to clear a GR 70 for primals which took me 12 hours. Leveling alone took me four hours. I just didn’t have enough gold to upgrade the blacksmith although I got some okay ish weapons and armor with the level 1 requirement. I just didn’t get the 70 weapon until 60+.
The season journey was very difficult with no-set or only a two-piece set. Such as killing bosses at level 70. It would’ve been easier at low levels.
And now I’m wondering if it was all worth it to not use the challenge rift cache. Because I still haven’t gotten to that part of the Altar sacrifices and I’m already at Saturday night.
For the vast amount of players, using the cache is the way to go.
This really comes down to the major streamers giving leveling advice for themselves, not the general public. And this holds true for sites like IcyVeins and Maxroll as well.
Guides are really best for learning new tricks to help shave down your time, but they won’t make you run nearly as fast as the demonstrations. It’s a situation of a player understanding what type of player they are. Even if you know a strategy to the T, don’t expect to pull it off as well as a person who’s practiced it a million times. Knowing and doing are two totally different things.
My general rule of thumb for advice on time, there’s so much embellishment as to how fast things take, that you should double any time estimate people give. Not that there aren’t some people who are realistic, but saying if you don’t plan on playing 20+ hours isn’t as exciting as someone who claims that they’ll have the altar unlocked in under 6 hours.
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I think the biggest question, which BehindTimes alluded to in an earlier post, would be: Did you have fun?
If yes, then it doesn’t really matter in this particular moment. (Though, perhaps an experiment could be done, and you could try to use the cache next season to see if you like that boosted start better.)
Speaking on a personal level, I’m of the opinion that the game doesn’t really “start” until level 70. So whatever gets me there the fastest - even if it’s mindless streak farming - becomes the most fun for me because it propels me to the “launching pad” that much sooner. YMMV though.
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I just checked my S37 progress (I’m from Europe and play EU server).
I’m 19h36m in, 906paragon. At the moment I still have to do few last steps on the altar (1500 BS, 125 “gem” from EN, Staff of Herding (ready) and 1600BS) + Ashes from 5 Primals.
Together with the GR70 Primal I had only 2 additional drop. One in a TXVI rift, one in a Vision.
I cleared a GR110 long time ago; had to wait very long for my first Scream (over 60 GR’s), but have like 5 sitting in stash now.
With my current gear I could have done 130+ already.
But, gonna travel today, and have a busy week at work…
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I saved the cache and already finished the Journey. Now all I need is another 165 Primordial ashes and I’ll be through with the Altar. I always use a DH at the start because they are fast and can do Echo Nightmares really good. I don’t push GRs this early. I like to farm gear and level up gems first then settle on a better class, I guess Necro. Back to farming!
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