Those heavily involved in JSP will never leave JSP, even with a compelling
(but fresh start) alternative or the addition of an in-game trading post.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
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i think many don’t want to be affiliated with that “thing” though. For good reasons, it’s one of the worst thing that happened in the D2 economy and was a den for bot users, so many want to stay away from it.
Especially since there is discord communities nowaday.
i won’t be trading this time around (100% self loot) , but if i remember correctly , there was one trade forum for diablo 3 when it was still possible to trade , so it’s highly probable it will be the case for D2R too on the official forum.
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I dont know… I would wager a good chunk would use a Blizzard alternative, if offered. I know I would.
The cheaters who have oodles of FG of course, wont, at best they will use both.
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I would. A trading site similar to the one of path of exile would definately make me swap. I like JSP, but i don’t like that you can use funds from previous ladders and transfer dem over, or use real money to buy currency.
I believe if a proper alternative is introduced, enough people would leave jsp for that solution, and jsp would become to inefficient because not enough people use it to keep trade flowing.
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I quickly put together a consept based on the PoE style of trading, however, it is my first time making anything in photoshop, so it is what it is.
imgur.com/a/PQlctgz
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blizz stop letting other companies run all over yall… blizz do you need someone with some stones to manage over there? why u lettin them chumps take yalls money… make a d2r official trade site… that way botters and people who have spent time getting fg it would all be useless
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it has a trading forum, its called d2jsp its as old as the game itself and widely popular. why would i need a new one and why would i want to go there?
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and the compelling argument for them would be that now they cant transfer their wealth anymore? the flaw in your logic is that not jsp users are annoyed that they can transfer their wealth, its the people not taking part in that trading community in the first place that are.
so this does obviously very little/nothing to wealth transfer
It is literally impossible for Blizzard to create alternative unless they get rid of the ladder altogether.
I am a jsp user, and i am annoyed. I know alot of them, specially those who are more wealthy aren’t, but if enough people leaves their service there wouldn’t be enough items listed/trades going through for the forum to flow. Leaving only the wealthiest of jsp users alone to trade with eachother, how would that work out? One item listed every few hours, or days, instead of how it is currently at a fresh ladder, where several items are listed every minute?
How so? A trading site where you only trade in-game items is just that, a solution. As long as you use somekind of off game currency, it will probably be impossible, yes. But if you can only trade ladder items vs ladder items, how would that not be a viable alternative? There is a section for PoE on jsp aswell, yet, the official trading forum is faar more dominant.
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again, expecting a mass exodus of jsp to be disadvantaged on another platform is a logical flaw and if you cant see that i cant help you.
“i am a jsp user” and “i know a lot of people” sadly constitutes no fact.
The only fact here is: if jsp users leave to the blizzard option you described, they lose their ability to transfer wealth.
also, i dont know you and neither your “friends on jsp” but tere are pretty tight knit communities over there, some existing for well over 10 years. You think the proposal to make them off worse on a blizzard regulated platform will convince them to give that up?
dont be delusional.
Im not even against blizzard creating that website. Im just 100% convinced what you think would happen wont happen.
You’re not reading my posts correctly. I agree with you, i don’t think the most invested people, who have used bots to gain hundreds of thousands of fg, or more will want a more legit solution. But the vast majority of jsp users aren’t that wealthy, and would probably love a more convenient trading system, using in-game items as currency, and being able to trade more fluently without dropping items on the floor hoping that the other peer will transfer you fg.
The point is, if there is a better solution, that is more popular, the other solution will be less viable. It doesn’t matter if the rich jsp users want it or not, they will be forced to, or else they wouldn’t have anyone to trade with. I doubt that with 100 active people on jsp they would be able to efficiently find the items they need on demand or sell the items they find on demand.
Jsp will never completely vanish, but like many other games jsp has a trading section for, it will be faar less viable and common to use.
you cant be serious. A currency is literally ->the<- most important thing that elevates jsp over trading with ingame items. Trading with ingame items is so horribly inefficient its the very reason something like jsp was able to become so succesful.
im sorry but your grasp on why people use jsp is ridiculous.
but what is that better solution? as i explained, so far the only thing you proposed was a trading platform with the following negatives compared to jsp:
- huge loss in efficiency due to no currency
- wealth not transferable between seasons and other games
→ this is obviously a negative for jsp users. its only a positive for non jsp users - giving up 20 years of D2 trading history and community on jsp
- loss of trade mediation and resolving scams
positives:
- ?
- ?
- ?
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I don’t even know what d2jsp is and don’t care what it is. But I am certain it’s not gonna be used as our main trading forum definitely. We need one in official blizzard website period.
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I don’t think you are serious and reflected enough to grasp this my friend. If you think the “fg” is the main reason people have started to use jsp you are clearly missinformed. People started using jsp because there was no other efficient option to trade. Making games “O Ist N Occy” was extremely inefficient and could take forever to find a person to trade with. So in my opinion, your grasp is quite rediculous, since you want to take the hostile approach.
If fg is the main reason people was using jsp, jsp would be more wide spread around gaming and used alot more in other games. It is not.
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you are too late man
its allready used as the main online trading forum for 18 years straight xD
you are free to use whatever you like obviously
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Sorry, but I don’t care about your friendly trading party. But it would be helpful for us that are not from USA or new to the game if there is an official trading forum from blizzard.
how do you trade a item that is worth more than 40 HRs / Sojs / you name it efficiently without a currency, especially once dupes are back.
there are masses of such items traded on JSP every week
please explain
and again: i really really really hope blizzard starts a forum like that for you guys.
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and that is relevant to me why? do you think anyone in the biggest D2 trading forum was waiting for you to be interested?
you can trade down on the streets for all i care.
I agree that is where it becomes tricky. In PoE you have stacking, which solves that issue. But idk if i want stacking in Diablo 2.