I commend you for not joining the cheater mentality.
Unfortunately the cheaters tend to promote each other, then they all get banned and either leave D3 or make a new account and rinse and repeat the sick cycle.
If only this game were policed more effectively, we would’t have this mentality of cheating being required to play efficiently.
I wish (unrealistically) they Blizz would ban ALL cheaters more frequently, and remove their previous positions on the leaderboards.
Just because they got caught cheating on season 20 doesn’t give them the right to have a position in season 16 when they were obviously cheating but got away with it.
To my limited knowledge, there are no GR-pushing bots. People use bots to farm mats, keys, gear, and paragon and then use those to do the actual push attempts themselves.
I think I still have screenshots from previous seasons, where 3 people on a team are banned for cheating, and the one legit player, who plays support is the one keeping the record on the ladder. (and we’re talking top 10, so I can easily see if those people have cleared even higher and that’s why they are not getting displayed on his team)
I’m sorry, but even the record of the one legit player should be deleted. You can’t have a record as one support, where the other 3 players clearly cheated and got banned for it. And since we’re talking high up on the ladder, there’s no way you can’t tell those players are not cheating. A player, that is that high up will have sufficient understanding of the game to tell if someone is cheating.
At the very least you check his profile, you check how many hours have passed since the season started, and when it turns out, that this person has “slept” for 2 hours when two weeks have passed, clearly he cheats.
And I’m about to say something controversial, so get ready for it.
There’s been a lot of talk throughout the last year, but especially recently, that Quality Assurance and testers at Blizzard get piss poor money to the point, that they barely get by.
I gotta say… throughout the last 10 years Blizzard games seem to be tested poorly. Last 2 WoW expansions are pretty dramatic examples… RoS also, since every single season there’s some major exploit.
Now, there are two possibilities (and I don’t know how the inner workings of Blizzard, so I can’t really tell which one is it) :
QA does it’s job fine, and it’s the higher ups, that don’t give enough resources to the devs, so they can adjust the game based on the tester’s feedback. If that’s the case, then they do fine job and it’s really out of their hands…
QA doesn’t properly test the game, cause they are noobs or something… and if this is the case, the little they get paid is already too much…
I completely agree with you on this!
There are streamers out there taking advantage of botters paragons to get rank 1 which many of us do not think is deserved.
I’m going for option 1. Unless your the boss who likes to delegate every thing to the “peons” and expects them to work like like the boss gets paid…we all have been in that position of too much work expected for too little pay/time/and recourses.
With their main focus on D4 and other games, D3 team I’m positive has very little recourses at their expense, let alone the man power for time. I’m sure they do what they can with juggling everything from patches, bugs, seasons, technical issues…and so on.
I’m not sarcastic when I say, that I am actually thankful to the D3 team, because they patched the Dreadlands set and this is one of the few things in this game, that I’ve actually enjoyed.
8 years after the game came out, they put something nice and I am actually having fun with it, so I really appreciate it.
WC3 players have it waay worse. Few minutes ago I check their forum (US forum btw) and I see these patchnotes…
“We fixed an issue with the Blood Wizard”
The actual issue is not important for the purposes of this discussion… the problem is with the name. The hero unit is and always was called Blood Mage.
Like seriously, they’ve most likely outsourced the entire thing to people, who don’t speak English… it’s like they translate the English patch notes to whatever other language, then back to English and they end up with Blood Wizard…
Imagine if this happened here… like you read in the patchnotes “The Mage of Death” when referring to a Necromancer… Jesus…
I used to complain, that Blizzard failed to deliver PvP Arenas… but daaamn…
They effectively removed ladder from freaking WC3 e-sport type of game, profiles and whatnot…
So yeah, in D3 we have it better than the poor souls, who care about WC3…
As a filthy casual myself, I just enjoy playing the game. It’s nothing more than a time consumer blasting mobs over and over and over again to me. I LOVE IT! Granted a few things could be better here and there, but it’s as good as it will get.
When I need a break, there are other games like Grim Dawn. Back and forth. Rinse and repeat. Blast mobs. Have fun!
Edit: Cheaters? Botters? I could care less. For those that are truly competitive, I guess you have your work cut out for you. If you are good enough, you can show everyone that you don’t need to cheat or bot.
This is a one-time purchase game, with no auction house or microtransactions… Leaderboards are just for flexing on people and serve no real purpose. What, are you going to put down that you’ve cleared a 150 solo on your resume? They have your money, they don’t really care that much about botters/account sharing so long as they aren’t destabilizing the servers…
All I have to do is point out that the majority of people who are against criminals are NOT former criminals to destroy your argument. Oh, you can find one or two examples of former criminals that are ‘reformed’. That is just like the antivaxers that can find ONE study that links vaccines to Autism. One example doesn’t make that true.
The majority is against you.
Personal story time.
I’ve been very public with why I’m against cheating. I stopped playing D2 because people EXPECTED me to use maphack (as a wizard) to quickly open a portal to Baal. I could not run public Baal runs because other wizards would quit the team saying, “Oh, you already have a wizard. You don’t need me” and everyone would get angry when I “took too long” to find the exits down to Baal.
I didn’t want to play some other class and I didn’t want to listen all the QQ. My enjoyment of D2 was ruined because of cheating.
My favorite D3 farming build (personal creation) was ruined by the fix to stop the Bazooka wizard exploit. I can list tons of examples of the game being harmed by fixes to stop cheating.
Cheating is a cancer that destroys the body.
Do you miss the auction house (destroyed by cheating) do you miss exp gear for leveling (destroyed by cheating). Etc.
My god, if you still can’t acknowledge that cheating kills games then you are a [redacted]
-OR (more likely)-
You are cheaters yourselves making BULL [redacted] arguments to attack anyone that stands against you!
I remember MapHack in D2. People would make Baal runs and list in the title “have maphack” that was so annoying. I played a melee fire sorc w/group fire enchant to do countless act v runs and of course so I could port around through dungeons to get to the sweet spots. Never did I use any mods, dupes, hacks, etc. for public games. That’s what ultimately killed D2 for me, that and the PayPal spammers.
I stuck around as long as I did because D2 had solo. THAT I did mess around w/the Jamela D2 Editor only to do really funky stuff for ultimate time consumption. It was just for me and me alone. For example, a Necromancer using a bow that will proc the Paladin’s Hammers or the Sorcerer’s Hydra. It’s goofy, that’s why I did it.
Good thing WoW came a long when it did. Poor D2. It ended badly. While I was playing WoW, D3 showed up and I stopped playing WoW and played D3. I was thankful that there wasn’t any MapHacks or PayPal spammers, it made the game fun.
Like you said, things kept changing and all of my builds went by the wayside. I have let a few accounts go because of that. I went back to WoW. When I got sick of that game, for the same reasons, I came back to D3.
Now that I am back in full swing, whatever. As the hip hop saying goes “cheaters finna cheat.” It is what it is. I refuse to let it bother or get the best of me. I am here to have fun, those morons can’t stop that from happening. Well, that is until D3 turns into D2, then I am done.
I used an analogy to show how the argument was flawed. I didn’t call anyone here a criminal. I forget sometimes that people who read these things are not always native English speakers.
In other words…
“All I have to do to destroy your argument: that people who are against cheating are all former cheaters… is to point out there exists one example where this does not hold true. Namely in real life there are people who are against crime who have never committed a crime”
Someone is mad they can’t bot every hour of everyday. Someone is mad that ppl won’t run him thru 150 and give the gear to him. Prob also mad that they aren’t #1 on the leaderboards. If everyone else bots, then you bot then. If everyone else cheats, you cheat then. If you don’t know how to bot and or cheat, then look it up or get some programming degree and do it.
Then wait till blizz bans you. Then we won’t be talking so.
