Captain Crimsons & PoJ Helm

Needing clarification on three items i’m seeking in primal.

Captain Crimsons waist and pants. I’ve tried crafting these with the vendor for what feels like 1000s of mats with no primals yet. Just to confirm, does this dude craft primals in these types?

Second question, I’ve been using blood shards on PoJ Helm seeking primal with no luck for over 2000 paragon now. If I get rares I upgrade them in the cube…no luck…Is it really this hard to get primals without a drop? I have three full bags of primals I cant use.

1 yes you can craft primal qualities of any legendary item.

2 think of it like this: Every time you get a primal item, you are 400 legendary drops from your next one. Thus only when you have gathered 400 non-primal legendaries should you attempt to acquire one more.

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That’s sadly not how probability works.

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is it really tracking our drop rate?

Not how probability works but how rates work. The more non winning tickets you have drawn, the larger the chance of the next one to be lucky due to statistical tendencies

Not at all, every legendary drop has a .25% chance of being primal (and 10% of ancient) thus 1 in every 400 should technically be a primal.

So every time you’ve found 400 non primals, you are actually closer to getting a primal. But you can easily hit a 10,000 legendaries drougth with no primals, it is just you shouldn’t expect one untill you’ve seen about 400 others.

I mean, the 1-in-400 rate isn’t even confirmed by Blizzard.

True, Blizzard hasn’t confirmed that. The 1 in 400 is a rough estimation based on player observation of a huge amount of drops over extensive period of time. In a very long term the primal drop rate averages 1 in 400 but the short term variance can be huge.

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Proc rates were barely confirmed by Blizzard, neither is any of the skill mechanics in regards to dots, ticks or firing rates. The majority of the game knowledge derrives from player tests. And as Kirottu stated, it has been tracked over a large pool, to some degree of certainty when to expect a drop. I believe Ancients was tracked aswell and showed a 10.1% chance.

10.1% is a bit high. Here’s the latest values:

Stats : Regular: 90.05%. Ancients: 9.72%. Primals: 0.23%
What we can gather from this is that 90% of items are non ancient, and 10% of items are ancients or primal ancients.

Hopefully mentionning bots (without naming them) is not against forums ToS.

Probably a year ago I last checked the numbers, it might have been 9.9%. I just remember it was very close to the official number Blizzard gave of 10%, and thus the rate of primals was likely very accurate aswell

No. I think he was just trying to illustrate the drop rate of primals in a manner that wasn’t giving a percentage. If that’s the case it can be helpful to think of it that way I suppose. Though it’s not an accurate description of something you should actually do.

Just gotta keep crafting. That is the nature of RNG. Though a we’ll rolled ancient will be more than sufficient for 99% of scenarios, so unless you’re not gonna be able to settle for anything but a primal I don’t think it’s worth. Play however you want ofc that’s just my opinion. Cheers.

take a scratch off for exmaple. your odds on a 30 dollar ticket are 1:3.something to at least get your money back. doesn’t mean if you strike out twice your third is guaranteed at least a 30 dollar win. just over all odds.
sorry if that was evident. just left the casino finally get home to play this game and i find a way to bring gambling into it smfh.