Wasn’t that statement made before the entangling shot bow and savage 2pc set bonus? Both of which are mandatory pieces for zbarb and zdh now.
I agree that zdps specific sets would be bad. But I’m ok with more zdps items added like the dh bow ect. for zdps roles. Znec, zwd zbarb, zmonk, zsader and zdh are really the only zdps builds(classes) that have been used in the past in various iterations. I think zwiz was more just a meme but it was also used to a point. So 7 of 7 classes had a z role at one point. But barb and monk were used nearly 100% of the time.
Back in I think it was season 7. They intentionally made a blog post and nerfed as many zdps skills as they could to try and break the 3zs 1 dps Maya that was happening in the No rg twister exp runs where you just spawned the boss and left. Because the trash used to be worth more exp. Now the majority of exp in a gr comes from the close.
The issue with running with supports and just 4 dps builds is as you get higher to a point where trash packs take multiple coe cycles to clear. You have to deal with lag for basic game mechanics.
The other issue is the increase in damage/survivability from z’s compared to other dps is crazy.
But I want to see a group of 4 dps time attack a 150 on the boards. I think it could be done still. You’d just need a 1 in a thousand rift. With good second floor. A good rg. And power, conduit, and either channeling or shield pylon.
I think it wouldnt be possible to do 4 dps cause of the lag. U pretty much need to use AD and stack mobs for most dps builds and that would just crash the game. Maybe there are a setup but alot of builds wouldnt be viable. I cant rly think of a setup which would be able to do it, but yeah maybe there is one.
If you d-sync coe’s and use pixil stacking abilities like pranadao, blackhole stomp ect. And have your 3 other dps behave like z’s while waiting for there turn to smash. You’ll theoretically have the damage just in the fact someone is always doing a coe go. Downside is group coordination and trying not to cc immune mobs ect. And you’ll have to have 1 designated bk.
Which makes it easier cause the rgk can finish off elites while the other 3 move on and agro a white pull. Using various skills to gather.
I’d vote “no.” mostly as the concept of a “support” class in a game where you’re supposed to kill stuff is anathema to the very theme. “Zero damage” is an oxymoron in Diablo.
But then u pretty much have support. Just that the supports do dmg aswell. Sounds like hybrid builds. Obv in theory u could desync all CoE, and abuse that but would be alot of trouble and u wouldnt be able to pixel them for more than like 1 person. If u allowed to use support skills then yeah i think it be possible. A bit more trouble for sure but possible most likely with some builds.
what is wrong with supports? your still killing demons. in the same vein that you have healers and tanks in other RPG’s. The goal is to kill the demons on the hardest difficulty possible. not that everyone has to be the ones killing demons.
U still cast skill and do a job. U not being useless just cause u not dealing the dmg. I find it more satisfying to play with a proper setup than 4 dps trying to zerg. I dont see how the concept is wrong. zjobs added alot to d3 imo.
i almost did this, alone, with 4 WW/rend barbs. I’m extremely skilled and my ability timing is beyond what 4 players attempting the same could replicate, so i doubt it could be done without an insanely coordinated group on voice coms practicing for months on end. Also the fact that i have the patience of a Japanese Cherry Blossom caretaker and better tech then NASA.
The fact that there’s no dedicated ‘healer’ class or playstyle is one thing I like most about this game.
I consider zDPS builds to be a failure of game designed as is and would love to see them removed from the game/viability period.
Same way I consider generatorless builds to be a magnification of poor power choice and design. I still laugh and chuckle whenever someone gets stopped by a DOOR because of their ‘uber build’
Stopped, by a door handle.
Ideally no build would work, period, would be 0 dps and unable to survive, without a generator. No build would be desired because of their ability to do nothing but run around looking at purdy pixels and not doing a damn thing damage wise, you know… the point of the whole thing…
Oh sure sure… you can waffle on about CC etc, but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter, because your zDPS toon and crowd controller can’t get it done by themselves and now requires an entire other character to actually forward the momentum or objectives.
So no, no support sets, no zdps help, no support playstyle period.
I feel quite the opposite, zdps gameplay in meta gives a much more methodical and strategic gameplay vs just rushing from 1 elite to the next. This has extended the gameplay for many players. You might feel otherwise about that gameplay, thats fine, you can still play the way you want. I dont understand why you would want to take away part of the game that many enjoy. Everyone can enjoy the game the way he wants i believe.
Only build i can think of is a necro mages without essence, there aren’t many builds that can’t break doors, better question is why put doors in a grift or drawbridges for that matter.
Completely inaccurate. Anyone with half a brain could detect that i didnt post for more then 24hrs after i edited it to say i wouldnt.
Aug 29, 5:36 PM
Aug 31, 4:48 AM
Your post saying you’d be punishing yourself with a 24 hour suspension was made at August 29, 2021, 11:58 PM
Your next post in the thread was made at August 30, 2021, 12:04 AM
That’s 6 minutes after you said you’d be gone for 24 hours.
Your next post in the thread was made at August 30, 2021, 12:36 AM
That’s 38 minutes after you said you’d be gone for 24 hours.
Didn’t you know that if you hover the mouse over the time at the top right of a post it will show the full date / time stamp the post was originally made?
Here, I’ve taken a screenshot showing it… https://i.imgur.com/Q6QSKmb.jpg
That’s 6 minutes after you said you’d be gone for 24 hours.
those were edited to say that, genious.
between the time i edited it and said i wouldnt post for 24hr and my next post it had been over 24hrs. Yikes, you try so hard and in the end it didnt even matter. git gud.
You just said in another thread that you were going to log off because you were upset. You also said “I’m ashamed to say i’m part of this community.” Now you are back at it so which one is it?
