So that begs the question: why did they choose a game that has literally never had an untainted leaderboard? That’s a little like going to India and demanding that local restaurants sell cheeseburgers.
And as I have already replied to someone else, you didn’t read the statement. And to prove it, find me one person in your life who cares where you are sitting on the leaderboard.
See. Didn’t read.
I wish I could get in the high 700s. The dream.
Seeing how I’m my biggest fan I would care about my position on the leader board.
That is some “live, laugh, love” level ish.
I care, and some of us that care actually get onto the leaderboards…
You care about your place, but so here we are trying to debate whether or not you care about anybody else’s place on the leaderboard.
So what clan are you in? Do you have someone who can invite me so that I can ask them all exactly how many times you’ve complimented someone on their place on the leaderboard? – or how many times they have complimented you?
Are you going to start now just to prove a point?
Again, if you want to be number 1, just go to the leaderboard and inspect the page with Chrome, put your name in there, then take a screenshot.
Pass that picture around work.
And again, at what point did you start caring about the leaderboards, because the reality is that they have been borked long before that and will continue to be borked long after you finally admit there was no real point to any of this.
If they invest in blockchain and cloudtech, that’s a possibility. If not, I wouldn’t count for them to solve anything; nobody solved the botting problem at all.
At the flipside, as long as playerbase keep complaining about bots, it will drag Blizzard into looking for a solution that’s not there yet and lengthen the release of a potential new title.
That ain’t gonna happen with all the RNG surrounding this game.
And that’s their excuse to not run a treadmill. High paragon can give you a very slight advantage while it’s already a mandatory to push.
I care for other people’s place for the same reason I care about my own, i.e. that I’d like the places to be decided fairly, without cheaters gaining an advantage.
I am not, and have never been, in a clan.
Pretending to have achieved something isn’t the same as having achieved it though. I don’t get on the leaderboards often but when I do it’s because I achieved it without cheating. I’d prefer it if the people I’m competing against weren’t there because they were cheating.
It’s really simple. I don’t think cheats should prosper. You apparently don’t care.
OK. once more.
Blizzard and D3
DOES NOT GIVE A SWIT ABOUT YOU!
They do not enforce their rules and they welcome bots.
Bots, maphackers, exploiters, cheaters.
The BOT numbers give them strength for their monthly numbers.
So whatcha gonna do?
Allowing cheaters to cheat with impunity will do more harm than good. It causes more players to cheat since they know that they can get away with it. Then you better get ready for them to do more than just breaking the rules concerning botting they would take part in every exploits that might wind up getting added in the near future. Then if Blizz keeps that attitude of looking the other way, not caring. Then the exploiters would be so far ahead of everyone legit that the legit ones would consider exploiting as well.
In time those words in the EULA would be seen as a paper tiger. Where the bark is worse than its bite. Sorry but that won’t help anyone and you know it.
While I would love to have a game free of cheaters. There is no botter in the world that would stop you from being number one. If you actually put in the effort in a season to be number one. Played in a manner to achieve your goal. Then got a clear that is higher and faster than all 1,000 players you will be number one on the leader boards. No, botter can step in and prevent you from being number one. That is how this game is programmed. No botter or bot program can prevent Blizz’s game from marking you as number one.
Yeah, that’s exactly why some legitimate players are upset.
They stopped caring before we did.
Kind of sad really.
This. Is. Not. True.
… so nobody else cares about your place on the leaderboards then?
– because you care about your own and you care about others because you want to make a point and realistically, this is actually the first time you’ve even thought about someone else’s place outside of trying to make enough noise in the forums to get them banned.
Don’t get me wrong. I care absolutely zero if they do. When you install and use a bot program, you fully subscribe to the idea that you can get caught and banned, meaning no tears should be shed for them, but at the same time, there’s also a very real possibility that they will never be banned again and that will not affect you in the least. Grind as long as you want and stop when you’re done. Whether or not bots exist doesn’t affect your game aside from list order. For someone like me who doesn’t care at all about leaderboards, There’s no connection in this universe between me and them except for seeing the forum noise on the subject.
Based on that logic, the fact that all of the others are botting (aka “pretending”) to qualify for achievements really means that you’re #1 and it doesn’t matter because you’ve already achieved your goal. Why make the noise then?
If you Google “Blizzard wins lawsuit against botter” and click on the first hit, you’ll see an article most of us remember from 2 years ago – Blizzard won over 8 million dollars against the maker of Demonbuddy. So, some lawyer please for the love of God explain to me why on earth Demonbuddy still exists. How? How is this possible with that judgement from 2 years ago?
This is funny because I recently went to check the leaderboards and yes - they are all total BS. If you look at the folks with 2500 paragon levels this season their equipment hardly reflects someone with that power, and their gems are barely at level 25. Clearly - this is someone who is just leaving the bot to run through low/no danger of dying, rifts to build exp.
Since there isn’t any gain for PvP in D3 beyond bragging, the only downside is yes leaderboards are 100% corrupt. They should add some sort of protection against it that requires a human to be present. Unsure how though…
Trolls be trolling hard.
This thread is about the current botting issue.
If you don’t have something to contribute, then don’t type!
Many of us care which is why threads like this exist.
Being rank #1 vs. #3 would be a big deal to tons of people.
If you don’t care about the integrity of the leaderboards, why are you in a thread where people that do care are asking for the integrity to be enforced?
You’re saying that everyone except me is botting if they’re on the leaderboards, claiming that as a fact and then having the audacity to refer to logic?
sigh
I don’t know, ask the hundreds of leaderboard-pushing specialized clans and players out there
– at the heart, of which, is leaderboards, since that’s literally the only reason why any single person has ever cared about botting. Speaking of “trollers be trolling hard,” this should have been pretty obvious, but I guess it does need to be spelled-out for some.
Maybe, but nobody here will ever be either and if you are, you probably made sacrifices that were wildly unhealthy for you. Theoretically, botters may be saving people from dying to fulfill some imaginary criteria that matters to nobody outside of oneself and oneself’s jealousy over pointless titles on a zombified game that died in 2012.
As I mentioned already, you may recall, I’m trying to figure out why. Call it a personal curiosity regarding psychological phenomenon. So far, I can’t find anything tangible. There’s no reason for it. There’s no gain in leaderboards. Bots have been a part of this game for the entirety of its duration, which means 1) that there’s no reason to assume that the demand being made is even possible and 2) that they’re more of a structure of the game than leaderboards, or those chasing them. There’s only an essentially unmistakable guarantee that once the problem is permanently fixed (which will never happen), we’ll just be complaining about other reasons we didn’t make it to #1.
Basically, why do people choose to be ridiculous?
I can’t define the boundaries of how profoundly you feel like you’re being wronged, but as I felt the need to discuss it, I placed an arbitrary one. I dunno. You tell me what percent are botters and increase your current rank by about that percentage of the leaderboard population, as we’re assuming that all botters are in fact above you. Should give you a pretty good number, no?
– and only five members choose to post about it? It sort of feels like you’re inflating the importance of this matter to an extreme level, which is something people definitely do. I could be wrong, but if you really feel emotionally bound to this, you need to get them out here.
In order to get classic WoW, there was a famous petition signed by an absurd number of individuals. Afterwards, it happened. Never underestimate the power of voice.
Honestly, people have been constantly complaining about bots in Diablo ladders since the days of Diablo 2. And in Diablo 3 as well. This forum is not really that populated, D3 people aren’t really vocal here (they often use reddit more), but I’ve seen ever since the day this game was released this type of complaint being a constant, as well as news about banwaves all the time (well, not recently though). I see those complaints in social media (facebook, twitter for example), ingame, etc.