Tens and tens of millions of us have bought, played and loved Diablo 3 over the years. We enjoy the game, find it fun and like the ways in which it evolved the Diablo formula from its predecessors. We are now eagerly looking forward to Diablo 4 and how it will improve on Diablo 3’s foundation, fix some of the flaws it had and evolve the formula in other ways.
So hopefully you can understand why I get a little worried when I hear chatter about how certain “streamers” and “content creators” from Diablo 2 and Path of Exile have been in the Diablo 4 alpha for months now. Now I don’t think it would be remiss for me to say that the communities for those particular games are filled with people who absolutely hate anything that doesn’t play exactly like Diablo 2/Path of Exile, with many streamers being the loudest of the bunch.
A lot of people in those communities are still spouting things about Diablo 3 that have not been true for nearly a decade.
So I ask, what could you possibly hope to achieve by trying to appease communities who will hate on Diablo 4 if it is in any way different than D2 or PoE?
Please don’t forget about the millions upon millions of players who love Diablo 3 and want Diablo 4 to be an improvement of that formula, rather than a clone of Path of Exile or Diablo 2.
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They forgot D3 players? 
Sure or not? I mean, most of the D3 features were literally ported into D4, and they even outright told everyone in their blog that the D3 season inspired D4’s upcoming season.
If they hate or forgot D3, they won’t use anything from D3 for the D4 development but they didn’t, If anything, they embraced D3 more than ever. 
When they announced that D4 has a paragon (they don’t even change the term), I already felt there were a few of the D3 haters sighing in disappointment when reading that. 
The only thing that D2 fans got is the skill tree and darkness filter. Overall, D4 combat is more strongly reminiscent of D3 combat than D2.
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I never played PoE, never cared too, but I did play D2 a lot from start to the launch of WoW. If it’s half as good as D2 was back in the day, I call it a success, even if it is a clone… of sorts. No, that isn’t my fear/worry. Nope. It’s that D4 will end up like WoW since it’s trying to ‘expand’ to more of an mmo(ish) game vs. the same formula of D2 and D3.
Come on, it already has mounts for crying out loud. People are already begging for those ‘rare mounts’ just like in WoW. MTX will have mounts? Or different things you can do to your mount? Or buy for your mount? Right now, it’s just horses. But what will it be 1 2 3 4 5+ years later?
I’ll give D4 a chance. So far it looks good and I like everything except for the mounts. I only ask Blizzard to remember that it’s DIABLO game not WoW and not cater to the cry babies that love to film themselves playing friggen video games. That includes PvP too. If people want to PvP, they can play WoW or some other game. Don’t ruin Diablo with non-Diablo nonsense.
Edit.
I do like PvP, but it’s not Diablo. If D4 turns into a PvPfest along with a mountfest, then I’ll just stick to D3 for as long as they keep it alive and running. If I want to PvP, I’ll do that in another game. Not WoW tho. I am done with that game, including Classic.
From what’s been shown (as well as told) to us thus far, D4 will be it’s own game that takes aspects from Diablo 1, 2, and 3. So while it won’t be 100% exactly like D3 (which is a good thing imo), it also won’t be exactly like D2 and/or D1. Instead it’ll carry some semblence and inspirations from the previous games within the franchise. As it should be, as D4 should strive to be it’s own game, that makes use of some of the strengths of the previous games, rather than being an exact copy imo.
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I don’t really like, when people start talking on behalf of others. Especially in those numbers.
Can it even be confirmed, the things you wrote about?
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If you refer to Oblivion above you, then that is my interpretation of all the quarterly updates so far.
I, or anyone cannot know for sure until the final product is our hands.
That goes for criticism as well.
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I believe Phoenix is referring to the OP.
If so, then I imagine the OP is basing it off the article from:
Where they state the following:
Remember, this 10-year milestone for Diablo III was made possible by YOU, Nephalem, many of whom have spent countless hours demon-slaying, looting, and creating memorable moments to look back on. To show our undying appreciation for the support of more than 65 million Nephalem worldwide over the past 10 years
That’s my assumption at least.
It does sadly seem like they are still using some of the bad aspects of D3 in D4.
Hard to tell based on current information how much it is. More importantly, D3 only became what it is today over the years, so even if D4 initially might stay clear of repeating its mistakes, the risk of going down the same path over time is definitely there.
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Nope… on D1’s and D2’s foundation… and then they will take some stuff from D3.
Don’t see the problem in having D2 players in since the game will have elements from there as well. It’s not like it is going to be just a new version of D3.
And as for other games, well that makes sense as well. People who play your competition can definitely give valuable input. They have insight into things you might not think about. As long as you analyse their feedback to see what is hate it is actually a good thing.
Too bad for you. Diablo 4 is basically just Diablo 3 with better itemization and skill trees + evolution of paragon + MMO elements. The only thing it got from D1/2 is the art style.
This not just pointed at the OP. It is point at every body that plays video games. What part of the games people don’t understand. This has been like this from day 1 of video games.
I have been playing video games for over 40 yrs. Started out with a Commodore Vic 20 then to the Commodore 64bit. It is always been this way where you will always have things in the newer games that is in a series like this.
So if you don’t want stuff in D4 that was in the other 3 games. Then you better off going to play another game!!!
Well the skill trees along with skill and passive leveling were also from D2. Not to mention the unique items that roll with predetermined stats. D4 has quite a bit from D1, D2, and D3.
So basically the opposite of D3?
I hope you are right about that. But D3 also started without its current paragon system, so things can go wrong even after launch.
My worries and fears for D4 is that will based on a heavy monetization model towards P2W and heavy catered to appease Streamers and Content Creators… which eventually will lead to the alienation of the Casual and Moderated player base.
Ehm, not really… The worst thing about D3 is supposed to go with D4, namely the insane item power. You are going to be stronger naked again…
Also the concept if unique items ofc comes from D2.
And we can still hope for a proper respec system, instead of the D3 BS
A good firm forgets its customers moments after taking their money. Good customers forget they were forgotten and return to provide more money.
Be a good consumer. Buy more.
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Diablo 2 did not invent skill trees, and D4’s skill tree is nothing even remotely like D2’s.
D4 itemization is also just D3 with the same kind of skill altering affixes you’d find in D3 or Diablo Immortal.
I think a lot of people are in for a shock when they play D4 and realize it is just D3 improved
I didn’t say they did. However, the fact remains that Diablo 2 had skill trees and skill leveling, something that Diablo 3 didn’t have. Diablo 4 on the other hand will also have it. Also Diablo 3 didn’t have unique items with predetermined rolls. While there were some legendary items that had a fixed affix, it was only about 1 or 2 affixes. Diablo 4 uniques however will have nearly all the affixes predetermined, which definitely is from Diablo 2 uniques, which were pretty much the same.
Now if you want to talk about taking things that each of the series invented, well you’re not going to find much. For example, Diablo 4’s paragon board is hardly like Diablo 3’s paragon. In fact the only similarity they share, is simply using paragon in the name.
All in all, I imagine if anyone expects Diablo 4 to be exactly like either Diablo 1, 2, or 3, would be in for a shock.
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