There’s been a lot of talk about loot here recently, but I wonder if maybe there’s a better way to handle trading. There’s plenty of avenues to explore when it comes to trading in d2, but this happens exclusively outside of blizzard on other sites. Maybe an area here on blizzard is a good place to start setting up forums for trading. However this method should be, leaving it strictly to the forums can be work. There’s other ways to make trading easier without going as far as an auction house. Maybe something in game, that’s not too invasive and more effective than trade chat. Trading in game can be a serious hassle, quickly turning the chat into spam. I can only imagine the first few days in trade chat… It’d be amazing to know quickly if I can trust someone I’m trading with based on their past behavior and history for example. Believe it or not, this part of the game is a big deal to people. Creating a streamline method to do business has been a goal for traders since the beginning. It’d only make sense to finally control this aspect of the community and it’s ability to breathe longevity into the game. How exactly should this be done right?
Agree. I believe Blizzard can make some kind of trading medium that keeps trading in house, and not other 3rd party websites, etc. I made a thread as well about this a few days ago. D2: R Trade Channels and Trade Forums
The problem here, and with the original official D2 trade forums and the current ones they put up last week, is that Blizzard isn’t involved in the community. Trade communities that work, wheter legit or otherwise, work because the people who set up and maintain the community make it work through various forms of incentives and interactions. Blizzard doesn’t get involved at that level of community engagement.
I don’t see blizzard putting in as much effort for controlling player trading. so for me & many others, d2jsp Is where It will be at…
Don’t get me wrong, blizzard ran trading site would be amazing thing. But I just don’t see It happening
stop trying to change it
There is, its called message boards, discord, facebook, ect…
A decent suggestion, how it would work no idea… but D2JSP and discord group’s are just a by product of something being missing from the original game. However if you thought the objections to other changes where loud wait until you start trying to bust up the D2JSP community. All the robots trade items there and if trading got more organised like WoW’s auction house how would people shark or scam newbs? they would spam you into submission before your idea got off the ground.
But it is a good idea +1
Can’t see blizzard ever setting up anything like that after the auction house from d3, they just don’t want the negative reactions (even if its not a RMAH)
Would be nice though, although an argument could be made that third party trading sites are a part of what made diablo 2 the game it was and so should still be a part of d2:r
In the end “trading will find a way”
Along with in-game trading, I think a Blizzard hosted “Trading Post” of some kind would be a good way to trade.
The seller posts an item or stack of items (pgems), include a short message (iso). The post stays up for 7 days. Perhaps a maximum limit to how many posts you can offer. The item(s) go into holding. The post can be cancelled at any time.
Anyone browsing the items can make the seller an offer. The item goes into holding. The offer can be cancelled at any time.
The seller can go through the list of offers and either accept one of the offers or cancel the sell post. Any items not exchanged are returned to their owners.
To avoid posts with junk like cracked sashes and fulminating potions and to give gold a bit more value, require a 20,000 gold payment to post. (No refunds even if cancelled)
sounds a lot like the failed AH in d3
Considering the RMAH involved real money, that stands out as a large difference and is primarily the reason it failed. No where in my trading post idea did I mention anything about real money.
It also failed because people were spending their game time playing the auction house and not the game. Thats the problem with having an integrated trade system (like you suggested) it detracts from the actual game and makes players feel like they have to be on it all the time trying to get the best deal. Its a huge reason the RMAH failed as well as they outcry of it being real money.
Who are we to dictate how people spend their time? Even without a trading post, people will still post “X for Y” games to trade. As long as they’re enjoying themselves, the purpose of the game is being fulfilled.
I agree people can play any game any way they like (within the rules of the game)
But we were talking about why an integrated trade system failed in diablo 3 and that was a large reason why it did.
I’m not saying some people (myself included) wouldn’t enjoy it, its just that its loaded with pitfalls I don’t think blizzard would want to get involved with again.
Thank you for your thoughts on the idea. I do understand a sense of caution from the RMAH failure.
Your welcome always nice having a civil conversation with someone
As someone suggested before days ago in another thread. They could make a WoW type auction house, except in D2: R it would be a barter house. So, instead of collecting gold like WoW to go to the auction house to buy items, in D2: R you would trade item/items for item/items.