2.6.8+ Barb Buff Proposal II

Barbarian
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For IK HotA too bad they’re unlikely to charge shoulders again, as putting HotA damage there might actually be a way to separate it from R6 and vile charge. I am less familiar with those two builds but it seems like they wouldn’t be able to fit Ancients fury shoulders. R6 would have to drop Aquila and it’s already squishy right? And vile charge need Vile Ward and Reaktor shoulders, right?

Edit: I guess if the HotA buff on Ancient’s Fury was good enough R6 HotA might drop CoE for RoRG and wear Ancient’s Fury directly, so I guess that’s a no go too.

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The only thing that’s needed to make IK HOTA better is to just increase the % on IK 6 piece.

IK HOTA is likely already a little better than VC, or at least equal to it, so nobody’s going to get “forced” into playing VC.

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Works for me!
20 characters

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Currently working on more buffed items, most for barbs, some for all classes. Also thinking of some passive skills for barb changes, most from your first barb community buff proposal, some my own suggestions.

Thinking of some other changes too like legendary gems, etc. Already made over 12 items, haven’t started with legendary gems yet…

As you can see I’m posting with my main account, cause I can’t with Gasnick…

Here’s only two items for now:

Lut Socks

https://i.ibb.co/VMzj22g/Lut-Socks.jpg

Skorn

https://i.ibb.co/JqTdtH9/SkornNew.jpg

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Loved the Skorn treatment, but Lut Sockets has a problem, Girdle of Giants buff to EQ through Slam. With 5 leaps it will lose its synergy. Would need to fix Girdle too.

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Well I’m going to go 3 for 3 on unrealistic ideas but oh well here goes!

New 6 piece set: Arreat’s Wall of Protection
“I am the sword in the darkness of hell, I am the wall that shields the realm of men, I am the architect of your death!”

This set will be based on HOTA/Revenge and incorporate wielding a 2-hander in 1 hand and a shield in the other because if crusaders can do it we can do it better!

Helm
Arreat’s Face of Death (D2 Arreat’s Face not the crappy IK helm copy)

Shoulder
Arreat’s Summit of Glory

Chest
Arreat’s Heart of Fire

Belt
Arreat’s Timberline of Despair

Pants
Arreats Switchback of treachery

Boots
Arreats Tundra of Desolation

Shield (Storm Shield stat’s??)
Arreat’s Great Dividing Range

2-piece bonus
Reduce the damage taken from enemies hit by HOTA or Revenge by XX% for X seconds. This effect can stack X times.

4-piece bonus
For every XX fury available increase the chance to block attacks by X%.
For every XX fury available increase the attack speed of HOTA by X%.

6-piece bonus
For each blocked attack increase the damage of HOTA and Revenge by XXXX%. Blocked attacks have a 50% chance to gain a charge of Revenge. A two-handed weapon can now be weilded in 1 hand.

Unique Shoulders
Revenge gains the effect of every rune and damage is increased by XXX% for every charge available.

Possible change to the Grudge rune to “Enemies are taunted to attack and take XX% increased damage from all allies.”

If you want APD’s to be viable then maybe just reduce the yardage to something like 12 yards otherwise it might get annoying to play.

Please be gentle…lol

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You maybe right, but I wanted to make Leap more “spammy” good enough to maybe even make up Leap T16 LoD build.

Here’s more items from the wild tables that could go well with the Earth set…

Girdle of Giants

https://i.ibb.co/f0D7Bxh/Girdle-Of-Giants.jpg

Dread Iron

https://i.ibb.co/yn6Vmtc/Dread-Iron.jpg

Blade of the Tribes

https://i.ibb.co/q5Drts3/Blade-Of-The-Tribes-NEW.jpg

Bracers of Destruction

https://i.ibb.co/gFKxBR3/Bracers-Of-Destruction.jpg

Fury of the Vanished Peak

https://i.ibb.co/g30vt5W/Fury-Of-The-Vanished-Peak-New.jpg

Spirit of the Earth

https://i.ibb.co/2qqqQ09/Spirit-Of-The-Earth.jpg

Have a few new items with new legendary powers too, will post them later…

Here’s one for example: :roll_eyes:

https://i.ibb.co/RPb6cLd/The-Zweihander.jpg

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Dunno if anyone here remember, but in the RoS beta Kongor created a build where he spammed Seismic Slam and Avalanche (being the cooldown shortened by Slam itself). He had tons of CDR and regenerated fury through health globes and that bracer which I forgot the name, there were dozens of health globes dropping all the time.

Of course it was a broken build (infinite healing and insane damage) but it would be nice to see this synergy between Seismic Slam and a buffed Avalanche (through dread iron and tribes itself).

I guess if fury could be managed it would create different builds, such as Fire Slam and Avalanche, both doing great damage.

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I have a build which does some of what you want. I have been meaning to post a video of it, but for some reason, since I got a better video card, I have been having troubles recording without stuttering.

It basically is a SS spam build with Lut Socks and Earthen Might to handle fury.

It is fun for me with how fast I can run around murdering things.

As far as the video goes, yes, that is a GR80 and I do not have ancient weapons. I REALLY need to get some for this barb of mine.

https://youtu.be/l8Ki9DL8oyk
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A Round Shield ricocheting I can accept, but a pointy spear? Hmmmm kinda hard to dig…

Then again, “WHO CARES!? THIS IS MAGIC!”

OK, instead of Ricochet, how about it pierces through and fly to the next target within 15 yards radius; pierces 3-6 times, similar to D2 Amazon’s guided arrow. It can hit the same target making it feel like being pierced by a thousand needles, but in this case, 300 spears! Thus the name “300th Spears!”

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I really would like the return of Phys Slam Leapquake, and the best way to do that, IMO, is buffing Tribes, to give it further EQ damage and adding Avalanche and Seismic Slam damage altogether.

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The EQ damage on Tribes should be added to its extractable power as well.

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To get to the GR 138-140 range, Leapquake needs to basically quadruple its damage. Simplest way would be increasing the Tribes bonus from 200% to 500%, and the GoG bonus from 250% to 600%.

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I guess you complely ignored my posts above…

https://i.ibb.co/q5Drts3/Blade-Of-The-Tribes-NEW.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/bB4NnP1/Girdle-Of-Giants-New.jpg

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Who you talking to? Images are great, keep em coming.

Just a note: If one were to apply the numbers I suggested, making Tribes 500% and GoG 600%, then even if you changed Tribes to buff Avalanche equally with EQ, this would increase the total damage of a Leapquake build by less than 1%.

Avalanche is just that bad.

To break even with Leapquake under current numbers for Tribes and GoG, an Avalanche-centric build would need something like a 4500% multiplier on Dread Iron. For that same build to make it to the 138-140 range, Dread Iron would need an 18000% multiplier.

Now, I’m obviously not suggesting an 18000% multiplier on DI. The best route would be to add Avalanche to the Tribes bonus and make a change to DI that, through some method, allows Avalanche to be applied at about 3x its current rate, plus a 1000% damage bonus.

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I can agree with that. I remember when BotT came out, I wanted to see how much more damage Leap Quake would do with Avalanche…, yeah, that was a disappointment.

One change I would suggest for Leap Quake would be to change BotT to say, “when Earthquake is cast, Avalanche is cast as well.”

This is not to make it work better by itself, but if the multipliers on Avalanche were brought up to be about the same, then it would be a fun combo.

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thank you Free and Rage and everyone that help’s with the math to make Barb not suck :slight_smile:keep up the great work

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Rage bro and Free, how do you guys think HotA should be treated to reach Zodiac’s level of power?

Free, shouldn’t we push this post also im general forums? For visibility…

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The problem with that is that it mainly benefit Fire variant, no? I’d like to buff both Phys AND Fire, to keep them on par with each other, like it was before

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Just fiinished leveling my barb on S19 to 70 and I must say it was a nightmare to do… Been in one party for over 4h…

Anyway, currently working on Barb skills. When I’m done I’ll post a list of all barb skills “buffed” or at least half of them including passives…

Right now I’m finished with Earthquake with all runes and starting with Avalanche.

Once I’m done with skills we can all discuss if you agree with my ideas or not and I may correct them later.

Will also post new legendary items supporting furious charge later and other I made during my week of absence.

For now enjoy my new skills hotbar for D3 RoS: