I say just nix the leaderboards entirely.
Problem solved.
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3k in 2 months with season theme is easy in it. however, i went from one speed run group to the other. and actually only played causal without bounties etc.
GoDs kill enough trash and we mostly had 150-200 stacks for theme. With the right procs, things can tip over quickly.
however i met too many people with 3000-3500 after a month. and we wondered how that could be. especially they couldn’t play and didn’t know a lot of the mechanics! i saw almost the same names again after ban waves. however, they had 2k paragon. hello bounty bots accounts i would say …
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Then why did you start this thread???
The Mindless turn the game into a contest to be nothing but the Leader-board KINGS.
There is so much more to the game than just being the Leader-board Kings. The mindless don’t see that it is all about how fast I can do any thing in the game.
When Blizzard change it to paragon / leader-board that was the downfall of the game.
But there is nothing to see here!!!
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Ummm… pointing out people are obviously cheating their way to the top.
So it’s mindless to want to finish as high as you can on the leader boards?
Please explain what else there is to do in the game? PLEASE do tell.
Let me answer that for you, save you the trouble of thinking, best for everyone I would say.
Campaign?
Do I need to elaborate there, or is that self explanatory? 1st time players for the experience, now it’s there for botters who get kicked and have to start the game again to complete so they can unlock adventure mode.
Bounties?
You do bounties because you HAVE to, sure as hell not for the love of it, and why do you have to? To get mats. Why do you need to get mats? To reroll stuff. Why do you need to reroll stuff? So you can do more damage. Why do you need to do more damage? To do higher GR’s.
Speed runs?
Are these fun? For a little while you level pretty quick and get heaps of paragons and souls and loot. Why do we need more paragons and souls and loot? Paragon helps with DPS (and other things until 800, then only DPS). Souls help to reroll items and loot because we are looking for better items. All of these are so we can do higher GR’s.
Rifts?
Always doing rifts because you need keys.
You need Keys to do GR’s, you do GR’s to level up gems, you level up gems to do higher GR’s and so you can augment your gear, to try and do even higher GR’s.
You run out of keys you need to do more rifts.
You run out of mats to improve your gear, you need to do more bounties.
What else is there? The season stuff, yeah that’s nothing exciting now is it?
Everything leads back to you wanting to be able to do more damage. Why?
Do go as high as you can go.
This, I think is a reasonable statement, they were trying too hard to make the game more interesting.
But seriously, if you aren’t playing to finish as high a ranking as you possibly can, what else is this game about?
For me, poor old mindless leader-board king me, I’m pushing myself to stay in the top 10 of my class.
Otherwise I literally have no other reason to play.
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You can get to paragon 2000 or even 2400 in season even if you only do GRs SOLO.
I got 2200+ paragon on my 2nd account in season and I played maybe 3-5h max with a friend doing 110-120 GRs only. Made maybe 100 paragon this way.
When season started just like everyone else I joined public rifts doing some T10-T16 runs after reaching about 1200-1500 or even earlier I did normal rifts T13-T16 SOLO just like GRs usually 100-120…
You can get even to 2400-2500 just by doing SOLO only GR runs and maybe few public T16 runs or even SOLO them too.
I only did bounties for the most part in public games, everything else was 90% SOLO and got to 2200+ paragon without joining even ONE 4 Man META group. I have NEVER used any cheats at all (THUD, abusing exploits, botting, account sharring etc) and I’m playing D3 from day 1 (preordered it)…
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It took Rax, the Diablo 3 streamer, 500+ hours to reach P5000, so 1524 hours are too slow.
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The funny part is in about 8 weeks you were at what almost 3000 paragon. But nothing to see here right???
That is right all you care about is the contest of the game to be Leader-board king. Myself I could careless about the leader-board. The game was made for killing and exploring. Not sitting in front of the computer 12 to 14 hrs a day. Just running as fast you can. Doing the same thing over and over again. Boy that was so much fun lets do it again.
So why did blizzard add all the rest of the stuff in the game so you can just run by it. But to just kill elites for DB and the GR for keys. I play the game to see what drops I get. I play the game to seen if I can help somebody.
I have 2 accounts and really 3 accounts 2 are mine and the 3rd is my 11 yr grand daughter that I over see. Been here from day 1 and again I have somebody trying to tell how things work!!! LOL
Plus you better start pushing because you are not in the top 10 of your class? You are what 27 in the Barb class.
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This is a perfect example. He hit Paragon level 1500 in the first day of gaming with the new season.
Doing 4 Man META runs for hours a day and reaching 5000 paragon is Not impressive.
Also he was doing OP Rats in first 3 weeks of season clearing 120 GR in under 2 minutes with a group…
Not everyone is a famous D3 RoS streamer and always has a group ready to start season with you and grind paragons like crazy for hours…
Reach paragon 3500-4000 playing only SOLO GRs without using THUD, botting, account sharring or abusing season themes or other exploits or playing with a group whether Rat runs or META and than I’ll be impressed…
4 Man META groups were doing 150 GRs on season 21 in 6-4 minutes, so that 5000 paragon in 500 hours if achieved by running almost only in 4 Man META group runs is nothing special at all…
This is a perfect example of how OP 4 Man META groups or Rat runs are, leaving everyone who prefers to play GRs SOLO faaaar behind…
I’m amazed that it is perfectly FINE to clear 150 GRs in META groups in 3 minutes on non season or under 10 minutes (sometimes even 4-6 minutes) in season, but if anyone who dares to SOLO a 150 GR in 13-14 minutes than he’s OP, his build is broken and must be nuked out of the orbit… (insert Logic meme) 
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If you watch the video, he actually has a hard time finding a group for the rat run with him for the quest to P5000.
Even so, getting up to P5000 within 1524 hours isn’t impressive when it can be done within 500 hours.
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During the s21 I found out how to play zBarb on youtube. there explained everything allegedly known boy. however, many wrote in comments that wiz has thud and therefore scores very well with meteor.
and the well-known “legit” GoD player unlocked “legit” 150 Grift with his team in the first week. I didn’t even had 800 para. but he already got 2k para.
later i informed me how to play GoD. and the other boy perfectly pressed 3+ skills every second and the other skill perfect every 5 second. Yes Perfect. 
i know too many such examples. that’s why I don’t play d3 anymore. and i don’t even start about fantasy story about super friendly players who invite every 5-6 runs to finished bounty games.
if they play like that, it’s no wonder that high paragon is possible.
or if you can do SOLO 2k, then 3k is easy with the group. in terms of time it’s just as much, if not less.
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No offense, but I highly doubt it and he mentioned at the beginning of the video that he had and his group was doing Rat runs GR 120 under 2 minutes for 3 weeks…
Most players are happy to find a descent group in pubs or some community and play with them for few hours…
Even if it was that “hard” for him to find a group for his “quest” it doesn’t change the fact that he has done it in rat runs and 4 Man META group which is nothing impressive even if he could do it in 300 or 400 hours. That only proves how broken the game is when 4 Man METAs can get you to 3000-5000 paragon, while if you only play GRs SOLO or from time to time jump to public to end up with a GR 90 or 100 usually anyway, you are left far behind and Blizz doesn’t care about SOLO players which they clearly show by ignoring everything any player who wants to improve life for SOLO players posts on the forum…
I won’t even mention any other suggestions whether in general forum or PTR, everything we ask for is completely Ignored repeatedly unless of course someone cries for nerfs, than they usually have no problem noticing it, but any suggestions made to improve the game for SOLO players are being ignored all the time…
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1524 hours played = Cyborg
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Ignoring such suggestions is almost a crime. 
and their tactics are not new either. don’t know why people still invest energy in suggestions. they already started with anti-SOLO stuff in wow in 2005:
if you don’t raid with a huge group 10+ hours per week, you’ll look ugly or like a homeless clown. causal items also have ridiculous stats. Items from the raids not only looked much better, but you could “farm” causal players in PVP battlegrounds.
there used to be a lot of memes too. always made people laugh. causal SOLO players looked like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bef3rg/expectation_vs_reality/
later they also implemented it in d3. I think this circus even started with paragon update.
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Guys, it is tiring saying the same things for years… Yes, the guy is cheating. Period. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is either a cheater himself, a bot maker, or Blizzard people doing damage control.
The point is, they don’t really care about cheaters because quite frankly the D3 is not a competitive game at all. Instead of discussing cheaters all the time, how about putting some more pressure to balanced the damn classes/sets anytime during the 21st century.
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Who’s account are you looking at here? I’m not even 2700 in seasons and it’s over 14 weeks? Again, I feel embarrassed for you, having a go at someone when the facts are right in front of you.
Not playing Barb so again, you looking at someone elses account here?
I guess, if you’re a no lifer…
Sure, with the right character and playing 20 hours a day…not all character builds are created equally though. For example, I’m doing 110 runs (HC admittedly) with my s6 impale character in around 6 minutes. I wouldn’t even try running 120 runs, far too risky and they would take me 13-14 mins, so 4 of them an hour for like, 9-10 paragon points. This is with a lowly p1150 mind you (solo, remember).
This is the least I’ve played a season since they started on consoles (s10) - it’s simply not worth busting a gut with all the cheaters, with unbalanced builds, and Blizzard’s lack of punishing cheaters. Future seasons will be journey only and then onto other games. Done and dusted within a week.
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Yeah, 2000, 2200, 2400 are all pretty easy to get to.
You are actually not making a very good point by saying this.
I’m talking about a 5200+ paragon player in 14 weeks at over 15 hours a day.
Say you get to 2200 paragons. That’s a pretty good season, I’ve only got higher than that once and that’s this season.
You are saying 5200 is only 3000 more and 3000 is also pretty easily achieved I would say.
However it’s not 3000 more paragons.
If you are at 2200, the experience of all that time you played to get to 2200, only gets you to 2793. But you have doubled your experience.
Do it again, your 2200 paragons adding that on to 2793, gives you 3183.
And again, 3488. Then 3743, then 3965, 4163, 4343, 4508, 4661, 4804.
So 10 times your 2200 achieved and you are at 4800.
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yea looks like a lost cause…
He was doing 4 Man META runs and he was like 4-6h a day online. I’ve done like 4h of GRs with him, than only noticed how he’s paragon was sky rocketing even when he played arround 4h maybe max 8h a day…
Lmao 20 hours a day… 
I was playing for 4-8h a day when season started for arround 2 weeks or 1 month.
After that I was playing 4-6 hours a day and in the 3rd month of season I was playing around 2-5 hours a day, but I was playing with the DH GoD build and despite what you might think I wasn’t doing 110-120 GRs in 2-4 minutes just because the build seems to be so OP (by some people)…
I agree that not all builds are created equally, but you can only blame the Dev(s) for it, that with each season only one build ends up being the strongest one, cause it’s so hard to balance all classes to be at least 5 GRs levels of each other… 
Those who get 3000-5000 paragon (some even 6000 or 7000 in season) achieved it either by abusing exploits, account sharring, using THUD, botting for GR keys or bounty mats just to play for over 14h a day in 4 Man META Groups (usually those with 3500-7000 paragon)…
Goodluck finding a player who only does GRs SOLO who can get to 3000-4000 paragon in season without any cheats, fishing for hours or playing over 12-16h a day like a BOT…
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