I understand that but he was talking about people who are willing to pay real money for it, thats why i mentioned selling site where you can buy item a lot easier than trade them on jsp.
Buy sites are far far far more shady than d2jsp.
d2jsp is straight up legit with compared to some of those buy sites. I mean if you want to get scammed real fast beyond in-game items and fg, go ahead and start inputting your credit card number into private buy site webpages. You don’t type any info into any d2jsp webpages during purchases, it directs you paypal for that, which is clearly a safer platform for such transactions.
I’m not saying every dude looking to make money off D2 items will steal your credit card number, but I have definitely heard very real stories about this concerning private buy sites.
That’s why.
Nothing has been announced about trading, probably nothing will be done, which means that fg is the main currency.
I know few people who bought from them and it was safe and delivered but i would be really scare to go for anything expensive. I would personaly never use it to get items as for me its waste of money, where is the fun if you will get all items you want for money?
Btw they actualy have people working for them as job farming.
Could not have said it better myself.
I sincerely hope not. I refuse to use it since it encourages botting and hurts the ingame economy. Realistically though, it will probably still be at least as popular as it is now unless blizzard actively takes measures to prevent it’s use.
Primary trading method will be ingame trading. The more experienced players will be using both methods, but there will be many new playes into the game who are not used to jsp.
The point of trading isn’t to destroy jsp. The point of implementing trading is to make life easier for all players by assisting the accessibility and buying / selling transaction.
Old trading was incredibly dated, tedious, and there was no point to it. You had to pick out a message from a wave of messages in-game chat where everyone was ctrl+v spamming. Then you had to message the person, and setup a norm game. Why not allow each item to be put up in-game on one trading platform, and have people pay exactly your asking price? It would be extremely efficient and promote gameplay instead of spamming ctrl V.
Actually it doesnt, JSP is its own economy since it has its own currency. If players arent using JSP and trade in game for their own items or using runes as currency, then jsp has no influence.
It will indeed continue to be used without an official alternate from Blizzard, same with Discord sites, Reddit, Facebook, me calling up JimBob and offering him a Coors Light for his Shako… These are a few of many examples I will use before I spam trade channels and make a game xxx 4 xxx please come before I die of old age…
They cannot do anything, and will not dedicate the resources that they would have to, to police it. Nor would JSP give them access to IP’s to track, ect
I really hope, there will just be a trading chat or forum within the bnet, to post items you offer and need. That would minimize this whole d2jsp BS as much as possible.
Why would they? do you have any idea how much money Blizzard has made off D2JSP? lmao.
How is that? Can you elaborate on this?
The massive amount of cdkeys bought over the years, bought for the sole purpose of botting, for the benefit of primarily PvP players, that almost exclusively organize tourneys on jsp.
jsp has netted Blizzard millions, where otherwise the servers would have been a ghost town.
So you are saying, that the number of copies, that are bought for botting and for PvPers is comparable to the millions of copies, that are sold to casual players? I doubt that. Not over a few thousand people ever possessed two CD keys at the same time I think. The PvP community is not big and for botting you don’t even need a second CD key.
I mean, it’s fair enough to say, blizzard earned money from that… but it’s nowhere comparable to what they earned anyway with this game. D2jsp was never a big commercial factor for blizzard I think.
Even for a large company like Blizzard, millions of dollars is still millions of dollars. There’s no doubt in my mind jsp has kept the community going, providing a service that many a player wanted. I’m not even talking about the trading. The PvP organizing, the guides…they are the best anywhere.
There is no better resource for D2 information than D2jsp. This no doubt has kept the community large enough to sustain, as you said, both casual, botter, and PvPer alike.
Blizzard no doubt sees that jsp is a large portion of their player base. I think they know their profits would be hit if they started banning people just for trading on a third party forum.
If they see someone paying real cash or things of real world value, they will likely ban them, but to ban someone for using jsp? don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
I’d be willing to guess 99%+ of the people willing to buy 3+ accounts for D2R are jsp users. That’s money in the bank for Blizzard. Do they really want to force such a large, active part of the community to play PoE2? I somehow doubt anyone will be banned for using D2jsp.
I’ve never heard of anyone getting banned for using it, I don’t think it will ever happen.
Only botters will use d2jsp. In game trading and SOJ/Rune system of currency worked for years back when D2 was a current game and it’ll work again in D2R.
Incorrect.
It “worked” only in the sense it was possible. 3rd party sites like jsp, discord, and others will be far more efficient for trading.
Efficiency isn’t everything though, if you prefer doing it barter-style, go for it! I find bartering fun, too, and will also sometimes trade in the “old ways”.
Should be a blast.
In my opinion it does. Instead of bartering with items like you normally would sans d2jsp, you remove that and just buy the items with forum gold. In a game where trading has been centered around bartering, I view it as unhealthy.
My main problems with d2jsp in particular are the wide use/encouragement of botting by the userbase and owner, and the buying of items with forum gold. If both these issues went away I would view d2jsp in a much higher light, but I can’t justify using their platform otherwise. I’ll continue doing my necessary trading in game and over other platforms come when D2R releases.
You’re right, there’s not much they can do in regards to d2jsp. As long as they actively try to combat botting that’s all I can really hope for.
Unless they have implemented an easier way of trading besides making a game and waiting for someone to trade with, then I will still be using d2jsp for trading so I can enjoy playing the game rather then spending half my time making trade games.
I don’t see, where these numbers come from, but ok…
Yes, that’s correct, but I think, mods did a greater job at this and jsp also is responsible for a lot of players quitting the game, as they supported botting, which ruined the ladders within days.
Yeah totally agree, that blizzard won’t! I just didn’t see, how they made a lot of money from jsp. But there will never be bans for using it, neither for RMT, as you can not really track it I think.