have i used the word ploot or anything similar ?
Must be americans, they are used to try and divide people and try and link every issue to their own issue.
I was explaining a very well known and universal issue of auction houses. Every game dev struggles with this. Nothing to do with your ploot issue.
There are a few Issues to d3 AH.
First: You could use real money to buy items.
Second: You could sell items for real money in the AH. A part of the money moved to Blizzard.
Third: The AH was included into the droprate of items. i.e. if there is a item put into the ah alote of times, the droprate dropped ingame.
With this three there came the AH-Botters. If there is a item pretty cheap, the Bot bought it (for real cash) You just put back the item into the AH for more cash.
Think about it like a âsimplifiedâ stock exchange.
A lote of times the bots accounts were baned, but until they get caught, the owners made enough real money to buy 10 more D3 accounts.
Since the itemdrop was bound into the ah and the prices of the items in the AH were controlled by the bot users, only rich players with real money could buy items wich reduced the community in d3 because âNo money no itemsâ. Alernative, buy a farm bot or ah bot. It was not only simple buy, it was more like to rent the bots, payimg monthly fee. In the end the AH was closedâŚ
2 Completely different games - Just the same theme and continued storys
D3 Auction house was disliked because of the Pay to win and prob caused issues with blizzard and paypal perhaps? Also, it wasnât just the botters on d3, u could literally become godmode wizard with an exploit that took 3 months to fix. Inflation was heavy with many of those who did it. ~~ D3 AH was gated by GOLD as currency not the actual item trading - D2 its rune gated -
Auction house introduces price fixing more than any third party trade site and/or Discord - and trading is the element of Diablo 2.
Lots of resources to find/trade with others if you just barely try you will find it.
we donât need an auction house we need a trading house, a p2p market. As currently there is no in-game way to facilitate finding someone that has the thing you need and is willing to trade it for something you have. Heck I can barely find pub games to join for farming, so there is a long ways to go yet as the lobby is unfit for purpose.
The game still offered the ability to trade using the trade window. That required interaction with other players. And it allowed for item-item trading.
An ability to make an non gold offer or contact the seller in the ah would have been nice indeed.
Drops sucked indeed. Now it is raining stuff⌠lol.
It really felt like items listed in ah would drop less.
Donât forget Blizzard took a percentage of your proceeds in the rmah. They were making money too. And that was fine. We would have gotten much more contentâŚ
Personally I loved the RMAH in D3, made farming in the hard original inferno mode exciting. Made like $2000 that summer playing D3 on hardcore.
The original inferno mode was amazing also, an actual challenge where almost no-one got past act 2 in hardcore. I think maybe only Kripparian beat the game on hardcore before they nerfed it? Watching the stream of that was fun. Most were afraid to fight Belial on inferno hardcore, if they even got there, because of the high gear requirements and the low tolerance for mistakes with no way to bail out. It was actually some of the best ARPG gameplay Iâve ever had, really dangerous and satisfying, even losing 2-3 hyper-geared characters in inferno that were probably worth hundreds or thousands (I never bought with RMT, so it was just items to me, but selling finds I didnât need was great). When you played inferno hardcore Belial or butcher it was actually a huge adrenaline rush knowing youâre locked in and itâs do or die with your uber character and if you succeed you might be one of only a few dozen in the world to see beyond it. Amazing. PoE still has this feeling of challenge, especially if you do the uber bosses at the end in HC.
The HC ladder didnât have the same issues with pricing as the SC ladder because people were constantly dying and losing top quality gear in inferno, but they should have just regulated things better rather than blowing up the system. Mainly it was whiners complaining about the AH and inferno being too hard in both SC and HC anyway, the same whiners who demand higher droprates in D2, free epics in WoW, constant nerfs, etc. Ignore those people.
I really miss the release version of D3 tbh. RIP
I didnt play hardcore, but I did enjoy vanilla D3 much more than what we have now for difficulty reasons you mentioned and actual rare drops that you can trade. It was basically like D2 and I have no idea why people thought D3 Vanilla was bad and D2 was good. I liked both
I agree, it was still amazing playing inferno at release on SC too, for the same reasons. Belial, Butcher, etc. on inferno were tough no matter what game format, as were subsequent progression. You actually had to gear up before making it through the next act things were so hard, but when you made it it felt awesome like you accomplished something hard (because you did). Itâs nice to have an actual challenge in the game and valuable rare drops. Too many games now are afraid to give players a challenge they have to work at before progressing, unlike games of old where they just released it and if it was unforgiving, too bad, figure it out. That made for more struggles but those struggles are what you remember and loved after you figured it out.
I didnât read all the posts.
D3 AH was centralized, this allowed for insane constant flipping by bots programmed to keep an eye on prices, buy and flip them.
This was a problem amplified by the quantity of items in D3 being tied to the amount of items in the wild. So if everything good is on the AH, thatâs it.
We donât need a central AH. Not without heavy safeguards anyways. They just need to actually try to make the UI friendly.
Let us make proper trade game names. Let us post wants needs somewhere in game or on their own trade boards.
Let us filter chat channel to find names. Let the lobby actually function.
I dunno they could do 2-3 minor improvements that would help. I donât know if a AH like D3 is ever a good idea.
I like ESO where you need to travel to the trade spots. Adds a layer of work that prevents flipping.
Dunno D3 AH was poison.
The only people that enjoyed D3 AH are those who profited from it and I canât blame them.
That said, having way too easy access to teh best items ingame defeats the purpose of these kind of games and AH does just that.
it had better drop rates then D2LoD did.
Ummm most of us are using discord to trade items. Its probably better then any auction house that they could make.
D2JSP, come on over and make an account. Great place to trade and communicate.
Exactly.
So many complaints here daily, the solution has existed for nearly as long as the game has existed.
D3 auction house was âbadâ, because the social outcasts who use D2jsp werenât able to beat out smarter casual traders.
Everyone I know who played D3 enjoyed the auction house. It was awesome when you found a green item for another class and hooked someone up and got a lot of gold or RM.
The way trading is in D2⌠is just awful. Look at all the full time streamers who play this game. They look literally miserable. Mrllama looks like an escaped psyche ward patient. And heâs the healthiest looking one.
The only difference is that people praised D2 to high heavens and hated on D3 to the burning hells lol. But yes, D3 at launch had many of the same issues / features that are apparently a great thing in D2 but a bad thing in D3. Completely random yellows with potential to be BIS, very rare legendaries, high difficulty curve, AH instead of d2jsp etc. Go figureâŚ
you have good interactions trading here?
i guess im unlucky i always get ppl trying to make a quick profit, never willing to go for fair trades. best case scenario ill manage to trade something and receive a âthanks stay safeâ.
id be down to interact with an UI at this point lol 
*if anyone tells me âcan you add something to sweeten the deal?â one more time im gonna go mad.
I quit when the RMAH came out. No game should have that.
Vanilla d3 was designed around the auction house. It did have a mo file game feel to it. They designed the game to
funnel most to it.
Blizzard also got cut of the profits. Clearly the goal they wanted thier cut. Side note the RMAH was so bad blizzard actually took the time to remove it.
Of course in most trade cases there will be no interaction / conversation between players.
The auction house was probably most commonly used instead of trying to find a seller / buyer in Trade chat. Scrolling through a list of items in the AH wasnât really engaging and somewhat destroyed the point of the game.
It was rare to find a good item that suits your character.
You werenât grinding for items for your character but to sell them to get gold.