maybe we should ask David Brevic and other D2 developers about what Isendra the Sorceress would want to be called? Has anyone asked him? He’s fairly responsive to describing what happened during the development of the game! I’m always in favor of learning more about the D2 development project.
I don’t know who RenegadeScienceTeacher is - I didn’t see them on the ladder list this season, but I’m pretty sure the original developers can help us learn more about these big questions!
That pain is caused by the knowledge that the person addressing them does not see what they feel they are. Not the word itself. Someone addressing another as what they see is not an intention to wound. It’s simply language functioning as it is supposed to: deliver meaning of the user. The user sees a man, not a woman. This can be pretended away all you want, but the truth of what they actually see will not be hidden away beyond superficiality. Thus the pain experienced will not be alleviated by forcing linguistic confinements.
cause it hurts no one and makes others feel better. You know what why can’t my sorceress or barbarian not be transgender the cannon one does not need to be but we are not all playing the cannon character other wise you would never be able to join a game with the same class and you name would be picked for you. by using they, them and their they allow any fantasy the person want hell your assassin could be an alien from Mars. That’s the awesome thing about gender neutral pronouns they exclude no one.
I think it’s actually a very healthy discussion for society to have. The problem is such a conversation is not allowed. Cancel culture has seen to that. And because of cancel culture, the entire idea will continue to be fought defensively. Because what it represents is an aggressive weapon to destroy a culture.
The D2 community is VERY well known for its very mature and highly evolved attitude towards people who play the same game as them.
Let alone somebody who is different. xD
And this is perhaps the biggest problem of all.
Even if you legally force someone to use pronouns, in their mind their perception hasn’t changed, because human biology is overwhelmingly defined in all cases not intersex or hermaphroditic.
You’ll get crucified if you say a trans-woman isn’t a real woman, but in the same line of thought a man is thinking, I can’t have biological children with that trans-woman.
Laws will never fix this. So I’m not sure what their solution will be.
again we come back to we as a society have chosen to form our language around politeness to others. that is all this is we as the majority of society have decided that be inclusive is what we want so that is why people want you to use the proper pronouns or names. Cancel culture is not new or really a thing all that it is cultural shifts. back before it was widely accepted to hang out with coloured people you would be “canceled” for hanging out with people of colour. I don’t think its a good thing for people to get “cancelled” but the thing is humanity has been “cancelling” people for not being what the cultural norm is since we were cavemen.
What I find interesting is when I dont care about race, but I hear the other race saying that they like to see people who “look like them”. Yet we are the racists when we dont care what people look like. How are these people in control of literally everything.
i’m having a good night enjoying political debate hour
In any instance where there is mass retribution for popular opinions, there is societal friction. There is no circumstance, then, where the two opposing parties will peacefully meet. So that’s the direction cancel culture goes. That’s the direction that “side” has chosen to take. And this reaction is the repercussion of that choice.
That’s simply where we are with it, and will be until the aggressing side starts welcoming legitimate dialogue on the matter without trying to destroy lives.
no one wants laws to change this. there is no law stopping you from calling someone the N word but culture punishes you for it. that is how societies change. I wonder how many of the people who are complaining about society wanting them to use inclusive language are also offended that we have decided that we can swear and curse more often now I remember when i was a kid i would get smacked for saying damn.
In Canada there is a law. So your statement is demonstrably false.
In Arizona a father literally lost custody of his son because he wouldn’t follow in line with the 15 year old “transitioning”.
You’re just hanging out near the edge of the party, and not even the front. You have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s cool though, we all like “nice guys”.
I agree with that but what i am saying is i am sorry but this is not new we have been like this forever. we call it cancel culture now. it used to be shunning or casting out or excommunication.
I dont know about laws, but if you work for a corporation and you call someone the N word you get fired. It may not be a law but that will ruin your life if you have any significant time with your career. Having said that I would never call someone the N word. But some of this other stuff the activists are pushing and the corporations are pandering to is over the top.
I didn’t claim it was. I’ve only said it always runs the same course, historically. And none of it is what you hope for. It’s exactly why it’s not a matter of being polite. It might be if it had been approached in a different manner. But here we are. It is used as a bludgeoning weapon against others who’s opinions are not only unrecognized, but vilified without understanding. That is the root of all the negativity you see on the matter that you (probably) attribute to transphobia.
I’m Canadian. There IS NO LAW about that. Peterson LIED to you. That’s not a thing. Just came back to correct that horrendous lie you just said.
no there is not in Canada cause i live here. now if you are using it as hate speech there is a law but hate speech does not require slurs to be considered hate speech. the use of the N-word or refusal to use someone’s preferred pronouns is not the law being broken thus why Jordan Peterson has not been arrested for any of the horrible speeches travels around the country giving.
NotSid I like your spirit. I dont agree with this leftist stuff being forced on everyone, but I for sure do not hate you or anyone else.
I’m literally staring at it right now.
The amendments added gender expression and gender identity as protected grounds to the Canadian Human Rights Act and to the Criminal Code provisions dealing with hate propaganda, incitement to genocide, and aggravating factors in sentencing.
Regardless of what they “determine” concerning anything Peterson said, try mislabeling someone repeatedly in a professional setting and see if they don’t throw the book at you.
Amazing.
but that is how it has been approached. when you go up to a transwoman and call her a man she is saying please don’t call me that. then you double down on calling her a man cause don’t force me to change cause you are wrong and that is when it gets out of hand. The very idea that a game has decided to use gender neutral pronouns is some how offensive culture war is ludicrous.