Teleport needs to be nerfed because It's advocating and supporting speed hacking behavior

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Teleport is one of the most loved but it is also the single most OP skill in the game, & one of the main reason Sorc are so popular & its a big advantages over every other classes.

You can like teleport, even NOT wanting it to change but acknowledge the problem.

The disscussion really should be, what then should be done to balance this.
Make teleport more easily available for other classes, Enigma lite, cheaper & more plentiful teleport charges stuff/rings, give every class comparable movement skills, or tone down teleport (& buff MF) to compensate. Then obviously the purist, donā€™t change anything.

I think tone down Teleport is the best. It make movement speed more meaningful, slow down the game (isnā€™t that one of the complain of D3 and other moderm arpg) , & make classes more balance as starter char for MF.

I do understand, people alraedy got used to the power, & taking this away make many upset. I loved the zoom zoom & protection Teleport give, but for the best of the game, & character balancing, i think this is the best approach. But making teleport more accessible (preferably ring or gloves with teleport charges) would be an alternative.

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Using a spell is not cheating. IT DOESNā€™T MATTER IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, ITā€™S NOT CHEATING.

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WOW OP finally discovered that this game is designed for a human bots. Do 1k meph runs and profit, no profit? do another 2k runs, no more Shakos??!? If u still not bored go another 2k.

Most ppl left after 1.10, its a fact. 1.10 just killed this game; synergies, caster meta, teleportong everything everywhere, being afk in small room as an end game, quitessence of retail D2 lol.

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Has it occured to you that the problem is the third party websites facilitating illegal trading and not the game? You sound like the type of person who would blame Toyota because your tire went flat after you drove through a bed of nails or blaming a gun for murder instead of the person who pulled the trigger.

As an aside, ā€œSpeed-hacksā€ What? You sound like youā€™ve never even played with the teleport skill. It requires you to hit FCR breakpoints to really be all that goodā€¦and even then thereā€™s a good chance you just end up dead because you landed in a bunch of mobs and got one shot.

PS: Teleport doesnā€™t really matter very much if you canā€™t kill the boss. Most sorc builds are locked out of a very large portion of the game and they wouldnā€™t be able to even get through the story without teleport. Lightning spec is the most widely usable one and itā€™s only viable with GG items and when you have Infinity on your merc.

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This 100000% I rolled a sorc to gear up other characters. Two of my friends didnā€™t and Iā€™m shocked at the items/runes they have found on the way to bosses. Pros and Cons indeedā€¦Not to mention my sorc has trash charms because I always skip to the boss. Iā€™ve changed my view on teleport for sure.

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Imagine having AI controlled summons clearing the game for you. Shouldnā€™t exist tbh.

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"change all this stuff now because i donā€™t like it!@#ā€™

iā€™m seeing a bunch of people (and yet still only a handful next to the whole) with this sort of view here in the forums, and frankly, you should probably go play another game.

i really donā€™t see blizz bothering to enact all these changes, when two decades of a small minority of people have been complaining for the whole time.

and yes, it really is a minority of players.

if this game doesnā€™t fit what you want in a game, go find one that does. or is close enough you can live with it.

you donā€™t have to play this game, youā€™re not being forced to stay, let those of us who (are indeed the majority) enjoy the game as it is, enjoy it, as it is. bug fixes and minor tweaks are one thing, expansions like LoD would be fine, but lets face it, removing core mechanics because of a small fraction of the playerbase are salty isā€¦ well, iā€™m sorry, but i find that to be butchering art, after a fashion, and will never be okay with that.

they made the game the way they made it, and in two decades, not much has been intentionally removed, theyā€™ve added things and tweaked the existing.

any arguments advocating such a gutting of features really just kind ofā€¦ falls flat.

now iā€™m gonna go enjoy my non-enigma pally that has no teleport anything and just run around really fast like vigor intended.

or maybe my ww barb that also doesnā€™t have any of that stuff with my run speed skill boost.

because hey, not everyone bothers getting those things and enjoy playing the game as intended. and when i want to port around like a fiend, i have a high level sorc for that.

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Donā€™t like players blinking all over the place? Not a problem! Just make a privet game. Now you donā€™t have to deal with them in a race for good stuff. True no player to play with but at least you can make your own rules and not have to hurt anyone with your opinions.

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using teleport is not cheating people spend hours and even days farming for the mats for enigma

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lmfao so using a skill is cheat now? thats new.

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To be honest, Teleport feels gimped compared to the original and other private servers. Why would you want to destroy a staple skill like that?

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You ever played this game before? yeah take out teleport so we have too walk everywhere or just re-roll. D3 smellinā€™ player.

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OP obviously doesnt understand you need FCR/FHR break points of around 5 frames too ā€œspeed runā€

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You mean just Spirit sword + Stealth + 1x fc ring? All runes from Countess, but hardest part is 4sox sword from Act5 or nor Cows LOL

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Iā€™ve found that spellsteal axe twice now, love it, swap weapons and teleport. Pricy boi though about 70k gold repair for 20 charges, but honestly it is a game changer.

When you hit a dead end, or strong monster packs, just one charge of tele is enough to save you so much time!

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I do think you underestimate trading for runes.

I have 5 vex, and itā€™s not from me finding vex runes. Itā€™s from farming high MF, and trading with the THOUSANDS of others who just happened to stumble into a Vex. Itā€™s not as hard as you make it seem at all, you just have to have a pretty deep understanding of the entire cycle of the game, and most people genuinely donā€™t. Honestly this forum is full of hyper noobs it seems.

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nah, easy fix. broad sword from nm or higher, socket via quest or cube. maxes at 4, most cube rolls will give this, and larzuk always will. instant base. and they drop fairly regularly. iā€™ve come across dozens.

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how is it cheating exactly?

im confused.

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Teleport does not need a nerf. If it gets nerfed Im quitting this grindy game. Youre asking for adding 10 minutes to each MF run. Less MF runs means EVERYONES items are more expensive.

Yes, if youre a necro and you want to nerf teleport. All your precious uniques will be that much more expensive since the characters farming them will be taking longer to do each run.

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i wouldnt worry about it, teleport is everyoneā€™s end game chase (except the sorcs) - theyre not gonna mess with the carrot iā€™m pretty sure.