Proposal - Fixed nodrop%, Experience changes:

Same no drop chance as now for solo play,but if player is outside of group in game with more players nodrop increase for player. For group it decrease. Same for experience.

There is also +5% chance to drop second loot from monster with +5% chance for better quality for every player in group.

So 8 player group playing together would have 40% to drop double loot from every monster and 40% chance to get item with better quality.

This might help to group play and fix hijacking games for loot, what do you think?

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So make the /Players mechanics work by party invite? That makes sense.

I’d also like to see some kind of party bonus for screen proximity just like the original devs intended (with the nodrop bonus). Either increase MF by 50% for each player nearby, or something like that.

Appreciate the effort but topics like this that actually try to help the game to a more fair direction go completely uncared for or appreciated.

Still this is so much focus on drop rates when we need a harder more challenging game one way or another. (P8 for nl is clearly easiest for devs to add that allows higher difficulty and bypasses nondrop for average players as you asking for)

Or have no drop exclusive to Ladder!

Ahh so my own incompetence is not wanting to buy 7 more accounts?

Completely reasonable statement- NOT

You have been told and explained numerous times that the main purpose of online mode is to team up with other players so it’s certain that p8 command is appropriated to offline only.
And you don’t even have a clue that there is no need in “7 more accounts” to max out your drops. That’s what I call incompetence in the game.

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With how multiplayer scales, the absence of p8 promotes solo play or split mf games.

There is no “absence of p8”. You can enjoy it anytime in offline mode where it has always been.

There is an absence of p8 online for those players who want to develop a character than can be played with others.

You can develop whatever you want in public or solo games. No “command” is needed for doing this. If you want to be more effective in online mode find a group or community to play with.

That does not work currently well. Why do you think D2 players say solo for gear and group for xp?

And you have been told and explained that P8 benefits are desired to be utilized with otherplayers for a more difficult/fun experience.

Real players want P8 to play with eachother like bots and abusers use P8 to play solo for profit.

You stick to your narrative to deny real players a real experience, and ask us to keep buying into your systems that make you profit (FG/rmt/multiboxing/botting)

Someone who stands to lose value will never acknowledge what causes that loss. Your vitriol is merited. But you will not prevail wrong do’er

What “real players” are you talking about? You and Zahra? There were multiple polls and discussions about “px” and majority always supported “px” for offline only. Blizzard understands it very well and never make your wet dream come true.
And for the better clarity tell me do you support “px” online without boost for drops? Just for “more difficult/fun experience”, as you said.

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Source…? I won’t be waiting on that one… :rofl:

Vast majority are in for p8 and ploot. ALL polls had them winning, you Google it I am not going to bother finding them for you.

This isnt even an arguement- P8 exists for a vast majority TODAY on bnet. For players that pay for it (multiboxing) and there is an insane amount that do this. But you already knew that.

Im simply suggesting they give to regular players what all of you already have.

I would like to use the same water fountain. Front of the bus too. But you, elitist scum, keep saying nah. Get to the back of the bus. Cant pay for it? Well this water fountain isnt for you!

Keep decieving us sure, but we will never stop fighting for equality.

You want to get advantages without doing a thing and you call it “equality”, are you a communist?

I am not interested in your disingenuous ranting. Don’t avoid and give me the clear answer:

“And for the better clarity tell me do you support “px” online without boost for drops? Just for “more difficult/fun experience”, as you said.”

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An 8 player split mf game is functionally similar to p8 online. Are you saying people doing split mf games get drops “without doing a thing”?

If soloed, P8 online requires that player to do EVERYTHING to get a monster kill and/or item drop.

I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. They do a thing and it’s called “team up with other people to get a mutual benefit” that’s how online games work.
You seem to be another “toddwick-minded” person who wants to get all gear without efforts and don’t want to interact with others. Go play offline.

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Did you miss this part?

OMG, it’s not an effort at all. It’s simplifies everything, leveling and finding of the items.
And it kills the main purpose of online mode as well. Who would need to unite with others if he can get everything with the command and any OP build.