Pretty sure this would be one of the smoothest way to have a charm inventory

thats is a rule in some pvp games/pvp comunity.
For fun try look it up how many rules and how many pvp comunitys ther is.
What you are saying is that ther is only one pvp comunity with 1 rule. so again you sound like a noob who have no clue, and are just here to troll

Ohh and its a power buff in pvm and pvp.

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Ok I read through your replies, and you flat out have not stated anything FACTUAL, that says why it is a power buff… Its a QOL buff, no doubt, thats the whole point.

Reason why it is NOT A POWER BUFF: You cannot add any additional charm power to it. Check Mate…

See above. It is not a POWER buff. You get the same amount of charms with the current inventory, and if you added a few loot slots above it.

We both know why it would be a PVP QOL buff, but players do that anyways if rules allow it.

There are far more arguments for, vs against here.

As I said, I could take it or leave it, I am fine with the current way, I will deal with the extra runs to town if they leave the game the same, but I would appreciate the loot inventory add on as well.

What I dont tolerate around here is the blatant lying and ignorance to facts, no matter what side of the argument you are on.

so killing more mobs faster and still have room for gear to pick up is not a power boost but pure QOL?

so add 100% damage to blizzard. it would not be a power boost right?:slight_smile:
You only kill more and faster. just like with charm inventory.

read above. and thats for pvm only

pvp. MORE pree buff gear, more res gear more potions, you see wher iam going?
ITS a power buff…

Checkmate. lol what a troll thing to say.

i leave it here for you.

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You clearly dont get it. There is no extra power, there is no killing mobs faster. Any extra charms do not work in the loot slots. PERIOD. This has been stated many times, and its exactly how it works in the mods that its based off…

Like I said, we both know why it could be considered a PVP buff, but we also know this happens anyways, its just taking away the mass swapping of gear or charms.

Ill give you potions… Thats about the only fact you can name that could be considered power, but its not really technically power. PVP sure, to a point, if you have PVP with tele and healing, PVM its QOL to carry more and survive outside town longer, esp in early build.

Well when youre right, its a very smackdown thing to say to a bunch of dense headed individuals who think they are so right that they imply youre a noob…

Yeah, nowhere in my facts is ignorance or lying.

You get no extra charm power. Thats called checkmate to your power buff claim.

lets break it down for you…
You can have full inventory with charms now and dont pick up gear, and dont waste time going to town :white_check_mark:

You can have some and pick up gear and spend time go to town and id stuff :white_check_mark:

You can have no charms less damage/HP/mana/etc. and id more gear and spend more time at vendors. :white_check_mark:

what is the fastest? if you said 1. bingo you right…
charm inventory is 1 and 2. ohh now you can do both. power and qol ad the same time. who would have known
So you learned somthing today… No problem…

IT IS a buff. so all the time you agree. why all the trolling…

Ahh yes cause in pvm you cant keep more gear to swap between right?
immunes. yes i got the gear right here with me. oh hork. i got somthing extra here.
same goes for all classes.
full cahrms+ Extra potions+extra gear+++… but yer. its stay the same :slight_smile:

Let’s be honest there for a second. Whether it’s a buff or not depends on how many charms the player usually uses, and how many charms the charm bag can hold.
For some players, even 4x10 isn’t a buff, for others 4x8+2 is their current use, and for yet others, 3x1+2x1+1x1 is already a buff. It depends a lot on the player, and there is quite a debate to be had on what a charm bag should be allowed to contain.

However, no matter the size of the charm bag, there’s no need to rebalance, as a part of the player base already plays in a manner equivalent with that bag size, so if the game balance is fine for them, there shouldn’t be a reason to redo it for others.

Any extra space we get that doesn’t affect the number of charms we use is there for player comfort. Saying that that space is power is absurd. You won’t be able to kill bosses you weren’t previously able to just because you have more free space for loot.

But you would be abel to do more runs in shorter time.

so like above. yes its a buff.

So what? Do you consider gold auto-loot to be power too? And loot filters? They let you gain time too. Is there any functionality you don’t consider power?

so what?
the whole thing is about, is it a buff or not.
It can be QOL and a BUFF at the same time. but just dont say its not a buff when it obv is.

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Would you consider forcing players to go twice to town before picking up loot in Baal’s chambers to be a debuff, rather than an inconvenience?

what does that has to do with this thread? now you see that it is a buff, you have to talk about somthing els…
make a new thread.

And you got it… Its a choice. its ther

I can see the argument from both sides, but at the end of the day, the pro charm inventory crowd wins in my opinion. The endgame is fundamentally about being able to do repeated runs as fast as possible, ad nauseum. In fact, considering the arguments that the game should be harder, in general, are a bit of an oxymoron. Faster runs, but harder game… Eehh…

and find GG items.
With charm inventory it will be easyer then with non charm inventory.
Its all out ther. mods has had charm inventorys for a long time…
Its a QOL and a BUFF
And when the charm inventory people say its not a buff. they wrong. thats just fact.

4 1x1 charm slots is not a buff.
And there is no charm buff positioning in PvP sorry.
There isn’t just one PvP community with one rule. There is a regular GM ruleset that many players PvP by. Then there is random PvP where anything goes. Regardless if anything goes then the buff you’re pretending that is happening doesn’t matter because everyone can do it. And if there are rules that negate it for the GM dueling then it also doesn’t matter. Attempting to find an issue where there isn’t one is a weird thing to waste time on.

charm buff?
ther is buff with gear.

LoL ok so now, all can lift 20pounds. but tomorrow all can lift 30 pounds. but no one got stronger. i get it… ther is a buff. but if all gets the same ther is no buff, is what you are saying :slight_smile:
Move on troll

It’s about as much of a buff as auto gold pickup. You can haul more crap to sell for faster gold.

It has to do with it that it’s absurd to call inventory space power. You are just forcing players to go more often to town, while not altering their ability to complete content.
You are inconveniencing players, and I am trying to point it out by showing you a similar inconvenience added to the game. Nobody would say you have debuffed them in that situation. They would say you have inconvenienced them and would angrily complain that that restriction should be removed.
Yet you are defending the same inconvenience by trying to say it’s power.

so you agree its a buff. at least you have seen the light.

ok. we have the same gear. we are just as good. have full charm inventory
you have charm inventory, i dont.
we have to finish 100 dia runs. pick up gear as normal( you know look at circles. pick up Hrs. id amu-rings charms.and so on.
who will finish first?

Sure there is buff with gear. In PvP and PvM if it is random, nobody stops you from buffing. In GM PvP there are rulesets on prebuffs. So, there is no buff.

If I can lift 30 and you can lift 30 there is no buff in PvP. We both lifting 30.
In PvM you could argue the 4 charm slot is a buff, but again so miniscule that only the biggest of cucks would worry about it. And derailing the thread on charm inventories to worry about something so insignificant is also cuck like behavior. But you do you bud! :slight_smile: