NEW LADDER proposition - NO ENIGMA

i dont think enigma is an issue.. its crazy strong yes, but it doesnt really power your up more than it speeds up ease of movement and survivabilty

what needs to be removed from ladder are things like mosiac and infinity

You can complain all you want about Spirit, Enigma or Teleport, none of these cause stuttering or crashes for players in the same game playing without them.

There’s also the fact that these items don’t warp the balance of other elements of the game around them. I mean, if you decide to buff Chain Lightning, you don’t have to worry about how it will interact with Teleport or Spirit. If you decide to buff any Martial Art, you have to worry about how it will interact with Mosaic.

I am not saying that there isn’t any issue with those (I don’t really care to debate that), I am saying that Mosaic is just on a completely different level of issues.

If there are changes only within a season, the point would be to alter the game in a thematic and fun way, not to remove content to please people that find it too good.

The kind of changes you are requesting would be better tested in a PTR to see their impact on the game. That being said, you don’t remove items from the game, you alter them to solve the issues they have.

I understand that you have some beef against that skill, but you would be taken more seriously if your suggestions weren’t trying to outright drive it into the ground.

I am not against increasing duration to reduce the rush needed to maintain these, but part of the point of these skills is to make an effort to maintain them. Especially, permanent Martial Arts charges could cause negative emergent behaviors, like players leaving fights, going in easier parts of the game to get charges, then coming back to the fight.

As if we needed more power creep.

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My dragodin and my necro will still clean all the game without that.

Alt acc confirmed. Now everyone knows u are using alt accs to bump ur own thread

And goodbye to a huge part of the playerbase

You must really hate that class, or dislike the fact that people can actually play stuff u dont like… Guess what… Noone forces u to play sorc … If u dont like it dont play it, its that simple.

Again, noone forces u to play sorc. I havent started a single ladder in D2R as a sorc cause i dont like the playstyle, but do i mind if someone else does???… Hell no, people can play whatever they like in my opinion. Mosaic is a different story. This single item completely ruin the multiplayer experience with flashbang effects, fps drops, disconnects and screen puke on top the obvious balance issues and power creep beyond what anyone would consider reasonable, which basically makes every other party member useless extras

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Dont compare Sh1tsaic to Tely, cuz Tely is different lvl, it works like cheat at lvl18… we all know the rest. Sh1tsaicSin cant skip all content, she still has to kill enemies and w/o Tely from Nigma she has to recharging charges constantly cuz duration is only 15sec, she has to use BoS most times instead of Fade even with Hustle + Nataly boots + CatEye+2Assa30frw Circ she is is still to slow to keep the charges, sometimes u just lose charges 0.1s before elite pack attacks, bad res + amp = dead before get charges up. I played Sh1tsaic 3 seasons in a row and she is just not that impressed w/o Nigma and at least 65fcr.
Hammerdin at this lvl is better, he can own all Hell and CS p8 even naked lol, its very ez to get GG weapon and end game Shield at lvl 25 then GO brute force mode smash everything on the way.

Wrong, PoD and PD2 nerfed these things and I think PD2 has twice playerbase if not more, if we dont count mass bots in D2R.

The same as 105/200fcr Infi Nova or even at least 20k FBaller with -res gear :smiley: read fflame+phoenix/hoj/sword 6x 5/5

Teleport for a lvl 65 with Enigma is NOT game breaking. Just allows moving around faster. Mosaic on ladder is game breaking. Just move it off ladder so the first 50 ladder toons are not Assassins. The rest are OK.

Teleport is game breaking. Actually it is ruining every class that cant tele. Its a fact.

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so glad you dont work for blizzard, tool

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I take no heat from a mosaic player.

Tune back mosaic to make it still good, but no where near as good.

Don’t remove enigma. Add something that is a more budget +1 teleport or other options to gain this ability.

I really do not think you can get rid of something that is a staple in the game since it dropped. I would rather have them add a runeword for the head slot that has a +1 to teleport but is replaced once you can get an enigma. Or adding a high treasure class +1 to teleport ammy or ring with other stats that aren’t as good and dont include any plus to skills outside of teleport and has no effect on mana pool or regen.

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Better proposition: no teleporting and no running, only walking.

how about asking blizz to run an experiment ? ….end this bickering once and for all

when new ladder about to start suggest players these options to partcipate in

1-Ladder without change

2-Ladder with some nerfs(players get to vote for all the nerfs they want in this mode, those they dont want are sent to category 3(accounts that has less than 6 months gameplay can’t vote), also only 1 vote per IP is allowed….nerf with an approval rating of 60%+ will get applied to this mode, those with 15-39% approval will get move to category 3 at the end of the poll

offered nerf with too many dislikes get sent to Ladder third category

3- Ladder with all the unwanted nerfs by the majority(this mode will only be enable if most of the unwanted nerfs votes didn’t get nuked bellow the 15% ratio……so that ppl who want to play with those restriction can do so…..if too few players are interested this server wont be worth making..so that mean all nerfs with a 15-39% approval will be applied to this ladder mode

why not add the nerfs with 0-14% approve to the third mode ? that just mean too few players are ok with it and if its like 1% your problably 1 out of 6 players that want it..its not far off from asking blizz to make a mode for you and for you alone with no one else agreeing to it

so category 1 are for those fluly fine with the game as is

category 2 is for those want some change but not a completly gameplay change

and category 3 will be for those who want a huge gameplay change(assuming enough ppl want these nerfs)

you have some terrible ideas. just sayin

I think they should just add a NL from a prior patch that is voted on by the community. Then they make it so all the rune words ladder and nonladder from said patch are available and see if it has any player base. They wouldn’t really have to do a whole lot of dev on said NL as it would be a static environment. However, I doubt heavily they have a working build of a previous patch. But, they could just attempt to disable the newer features and runewords past said patch. This is dev time tho. And blizzards one intern is probably out getting coffee and can’t work on this idea.

I really don’t think that would make the few people wanting this happy.

Yah. PLZ remove all runewords and classes . And all items.

Or Set every rune drop Chance 1/1000000000000000. No one shell get a chance for a drop. And every Hardcore char has to die after 10 minutes

Its not when the game was dropped LOL…and its not even LoD release with Original RWs.

Enigma was added in 1.10 patch, 2yeras+ after LoD release.

It has been a staple in the game since IT dropped. Did not state the start of D2. I used the word it, so the assumption that the second use of the word it is something else is moronic and you are just mad it exists.

You know what really grinds my gears? Well actually a lot of things at my age, OMG I could maybe make 100 posts today on everything…..but for right now I will focus on Enigma.

What has always annoyed the living *#&$ out of me with Diablo players since the beginning of time (or since first release) is the obsession with what others are doing when it has no affect on one’s self. Was doubling annoying when most were playing private games or such back in the day. If player X has an Enigma and is in game Y, and you are in game Z….WTF do you care?

If such a pedantic hole that the mere thought Enigma exists, solution is to either A.) Play solo, B.) find a group of like minded pedantic ***holes and play in private games. But I tire of these virtue signaling ā€œZOMG BAN ENIGMAā€ posts as I have been seeing this idiocy now for 20+ years. I would have figured people would be more mature and adult now…guess I was proven wrong.

If you do not like the idea of this runeword existing, here is your solution: DO NOT MAKE AN ENIGMA. There problem solved, my fee for that is 2x Jahs & 2x Bers for fix your childishness. Please pay within 48 hours.

I know this wont matter, but. The reason why some people would like to see some nerf to broken things like teleport and mosaic (just two examples) is because it does actually affekt our games aswell. I dont expect a meta rider to understand it, but here we go.

nice !

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