MrLlamaSC, could we get an increase of essense drop chance for 2.4?

Huh? You said it takes you 3 weeks to make a token … well since everyone else can put together a token in about an hour of farming … that means over 3 weeks you play a total of less than an hour … or less than 5 minutes on average a day.

You are playing a game that is soley about grinding until your eyes bleed and then grinding some more.

should find a less grindy game.

That’s not right

baal essence alone is 1:12. So if you do a baal run per 5 minutes (which requires a capable character for that), you only get his essence in 1 hour.

After an hour of baal runs I’d have several essences. The point being it takes nowhere near 3 weeks to make a token unless you don’t play. The last time I needed a token it literally took no more than 20 minutes to get all 4 essences to drop. I realize there is rng but theres no way it takes more than an hour to make a token, and if it does, well idk maybe you are doing something wrong or are very unlucky.

It’s not an argument, it’s a fact, sorry it upsets you.

Andariel runs can be done in 30 sec but let say 2 min
Mephisto runs can be done in 40 sec but let say 2 min
Chaos Super Unique/Diablo only runs can be done in 1 min but let says 5 min
And Baal can be done in 2 min but lets says 6 min
You can find many video with better time on youtube but I do consider low gear and bad RNG of the map so I decide to increase the time of every runs by a pretty big amount. Total 15 min
Now do the maths, drop rate 1:12 for Mephisto, Diablo & Baal, 1:6 for Andariel ( 1:4 if you do Duriel ). Let says 15 runs instead of 12. (15*15)/60=3.75 = 3h45min. I did increase all the number, kept Andariel on 15 runs, in reality I should have drop her to 6, and still far away from three week, even if you do 1 full runs a day, that it, 15 min a day, still done in 2 week, and that taking in consideration low skill, bad map, bad rng. An end game players can farm a Token in 2 hours, a little bit lucky, an hour.

Cool, now do the maths again but with the correct drop rates this time.

The drop rate is about 1/17 iirc, so you must be killing him once per minute or so? Yeah, I must be doing something wrong!

That’s a pretty good idea tbh, probably good for those poor saps (like most the suckers talking in here) who’ve accidently dumped all their stat points into STR and had to farm bosses with less optimal toons and think everyone else should suffer for their stupidity so they just make up bs lies about how easily they farm essences using bad math.

You seem to be having a really hard time understanding that there is a balance patch coming against a bunch of toons that have already been experimenting with alternative builds. Says a lot about how good you are with basic listening skills.

Hey I’ve got an idea, if farming essences is so easy, just send me a bunch for free?

The 2.4 PTR news dropped on 21st January. Today is 13th February. I suspect it will be another 1-2 weeks to launch of the new patch so let’s call it 5 weeks or 35 days. So open your brain basket and read the below:

YOU’VE HAD ALL THIS TIME TO MAKE YOUR RESPEC TOKENS…

Nice way to assume I haven’t been listening though.

Wouldn’t… even if I did play online and had 1,000 of them donated to me.

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Because you haven’t been. You’ve just been making exaggerated claims against my proposal as if your game would be ruined by it lol.

Like this nonsense. I’m over here suggesting that buffed essence drop rates would be a nice QOL improvement now that some balancing is on the way, but you can’t rush a toon to 85 in less than 3 hours lol.

I’ve literally been deleting toons and remaking them because it’s that much faster. Helps to have an account packed to the limit with all the necessary items and a few friends.

Why are you doing this?

It sounds like you’re just doing it wrong, so let me help you. Here are the steps:

  1. Get a character - such as a MF sorc - and prep it to do some boss killing
  2. Continuously kill andy on act 1 hell until you get 1 essence (should take 40 minutes)
  3. Continuously kill mephisto on act 3 hell until you get 1 essence (should take 1 hour)
  4. Continuously kill diablo on act 4 hell until you get 1 essence (should take 1 hour)
  5. Continuously kill baal on act 5 hell until you get 1 essence (should take 1 hour)
  6. Cube essence together to make token
  7. Add the token to your shared stash
  8. Make a game with the character that you want to respec
  9. Use the token by right clicking on it

Yes you must be doing something wrong because you are the only one saying tokens are too hard to get. I get multiple baal essences sometimes up to 3 at once. Same with the other bosses that drop essences. Sometimes you get 3 essence in 3 runs. The ratio of 1:17 does not mean it will take you 17 runs to get one, but sometimes it happens. You are just throwing a fit like a small child and decided to do it the hard way rather than learn. It takes far longer to level new characters than it does to farm a token.

Just to be sure I went online this morning and I made a token in 1 hour 15 minutes. I even had 2 extra essences because Andy and Baal dropped 2 at once.

If you are playing online then you have no excuse, as trading for essences is very cheap. You can get a token for lem or pul rune., and the essences themselves go for like fal rune. You can trade the essences as well and there are many people who are constantly offering multiple essences for the one they need.

I’d be glad to do the work for you because it’s not hard at all. If you want, I can hold your hand through the process, so you won’t be scared. You can even just stand in town and wait for free handouts if you like. At the end of the day do you need me to tuck you into bed and read you a story too?

Honestly I think your main problem is what you said in your OP. It would appear you don’t have the time for a grindy game like D2R.

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BS. You pointed out the fact and thinking it would help bolster your flimsy argument that people should just be okay with making mistakes, or their character being finalized. Here’s the reality of what happens when a normal gamer realizes their build is weak, and the only thing feasible to do is start from level 1; they quit the game.

Nah, you’re BS, I mean, you are taking my comment off the deep end out of context? I said it’s okay to have an “imperfect” character and that it’s not the end of the world to have a bit more str or dex or vit or energy or whatever. Which is entirely true. What you’re talking about is someone who put a single skill point into every skill or something and wondering why they suck, that’s something different entirely. No one would start again from level 1 or quit the game because they put 5 or 10 points extra into energy or str or dex or whatever, that’s just an imperfect character who will still get through Hell just fine. Try to be better next time bro, I can clarify for you anything you need but at least try to read and think before accusing others of BS.

I didn’t say that, nice strawman.

It is BS. No one cares what your opinion is, limiting respecs is a horrible design decision. They quit, and I’ve seen them do it. You’ve likely seen it too, and it confused you. Well, hopefully this cleared things up.

I’m not arguing with you, it’s not a strawman, that was simply my best guess as to what you were meaning when you think some new player is going to start over because they screwed up their build. And no it’s not BS, and real classy you don’t care what my opinion is, you’ll be happy to know I don’t care what your opinion is (now that you’ve said that) either. Sorry that you suck and are wrong, end of story, have a good day! :slight_smile: Oh yeah and congratulations, you’re the first person on this forum I’ve put on ignore. See you in 3 months, maybe!

Does earwax get on your ears when you do that? What a schoolyard thing to do, but if you want to give up, by all means. Doesn’t change facts that people do quit when you limit their options. Like, imagine if WoW had no respec option. lol

Also I recommend you look up what a strawman argument is, because you did it.

Who is MrLama the guy who sold thousand of Annies to make profit of 70k$ ?

lol you took your number on diabloii . net I guess, a forum, sure
Try maxroll for fun. Can’t share the link but I will walk you thru the process, you google maxroll, go in Diablo 2 Ressurected, Ressources, Tool, drop calculator, item, base and find the item you want. That where I took my number drop, and it’s 10 for the quest, 12 no quest. Argue with them, not me. By the way, you can find a nice D2Planner on that site too, you seem to need it.

But you obviously trolling, so whatever your answer, I am done with that topic, essences are easy to farm, and you do not make sense with your 3 weeks, and yes, do the math with 17 if you prefer (15*17)/60=4.25 = 4h15min lol, huge difference. You’re right, it’s getting close to the 3 weeks of farming.