A lot of us understand that, but multishot will not beat out strafe in single target. Each skill has their usage and removing the penalty won’t make the skill OP by any means.
Multishot being 100% won’t compete with Lightning Fury. You will still kill cows slower. The penalty is unjustified.
That’s how it’s supposed to be.
See my comment previous about casters (javazons apply in this category).
Then you’re reply to me was irrelevant. You must be talking to someone else.
I responded to points that YOU wrote…?
cooler try this set up instead
A2 merc with Pride + Chain of Honor + Andy Visage
you get lvl 20 Concentration + Might Aura lvl 24(585% ED)
bowzon gear
Faith(+5 bow skills and at least lvl 13 fana)
Fort
Goreride Boots
Laying of Hand Gloves
Razortail Belt
Raven frost ring
Guillaume(15% ias 15 all resist jewel) + Cat Eye Amy
OR
Andy,Coa,Mav Circ, Giant Skull + Atma Scarab Amulet(2X ias jewel in those helms)
to reach 8 frames BP
post edited to fix my initial miscalculation
you get more dps this way
the 1 exception that you swap to Windforce over Faith is IF you got a zeal pally feeding you Fanatism Aura
With the crushing blow and the lack of IAS, this looks like a strafer setup. For multishot with GMB, wartravs adds more damage and 45%ias helm + cat’s eye + noscoil is needed for max attack speed. If you’re playing on players 8, then switch to diamond/shadow bow and use atma’s.
the 7 frames bp is optionnal…not everyone can afford a 60% ias//160% ED armor
Atma over Cat eye//highlord is 1 frame more true…thats swappable if dont care for amp while using fort to get up to 8 frame attack speed
Guillaume helm can be used and still reach 7 frame attack speed with a 60//160 armor
edit: and ya had to reverify the ias bp…using the ias calculator(slight error on my part)…with laying of Hands on…it require at least 30 additional ias for 8 frames BP(50% ias in total)…guillaume can be swap to Andy…CoA…Mav circlet…Giant skull as other options to reach that missing 30% ias for 8 frames if wish to keep using Atma Amulet for amp procs
You can get 7fpa with any bow and still use fortitude; a 160/60 is really only needed for non-faith setups.
Keep in mind as well that crushing blow only works on the middle 2 arrows of multishot, so a 45%ias helm is preferable unless you’re using a faith MB, in which case a +75max damage/15 ias circlet with 30% FRW would be the “expensive but attainable” choice to use.
7fpa is a big deal as that equates to a 14% DPS buff after all damage calculations, and procs amp more quickly.
well you need 95% ias with faith on to reach 7 frames
45% helm
20% gloves
10% nos(rip piercing)
20% cat eye(rip Amp)
honestly i prefer 8 frames with amp proc + 100% Pierce than 7 frame and no amp proc//90% pierce(15 more SP points spent into pierce skills for 90%)
if we are excluding 60//160 armor from the set up
edit: amp is a must have for bossing
lets say arrow dmg equate 2000…without amp it drop down to 1000 due to boss/enemies ith 50% DR…but with AMP active that 2000 dmg arrow become 3000(it remove 100% physical resistance)…it also enable Crushing Blow to deal out full dmg instead of halved(5% hp burn up to 10%)
Yeah faith GMB is quite restrictive. It’s the best option if you’re farming players 1-3 and know you’re not fighting bosses.
For bosses and higher player counts, atma’s is great, but you’re better to use a diamond/shadow bow base to keep the 7fpa (more DPS and better chance to proc), or a matriarchal bow with the circlet above. The MB setup does more damage with perfect jewels, and allows you to keep gface + gores in the cube for bosses without losing an IAS breakpoint.
Diamond/Shadow
only viable with 45 ias helm to get 7 frames(mavina or 3X 15% ias jewel helm) – ------- +Laying of hand for a total of 65% ias…also rip +5 bow skill(-2 arrows to Strafe)
and well fully rip uniques helms that way XD
if pick those for Faith then effectively…+multishot Power at 7 frames attack speed
…but rip bossing power that way XD
edit: think u did a minor mistake in ur last spot…multi-shot for bossing ? o.O cause grand matron with fana +20% ias for strafe = best BP reach
Yep that’s right. You do lose some strafe points but the trade off is you can use razortail + atma’s and maintain max attack speed, making it higher DPS than GMB for general multishot use. Matriarchal bow is really the best of both worlds with very specific socketing choices, and I’ll be looking to gear for MB (currently using DB) once I can get my hands on some better jewels (I play single player so everything is self found).
Not really a mistake; it depends on if you are leaning more towards multishot or strafe. If multishot, then SB/DB is more ideal over GMB. In current patch, strafe is a bit underwhelming so I’ve always leant towards multishot or guided arrow, but this upcoming patch might see more strafe use and may affect itemising decisions.
i meant suggesting killing boss with multishot over strafe is a mistake…i didn’t mean for mobbing
I didn’t make that suggestion, I guess the confusion here is you need multishot to GET to the boss, so you need to consider that and not consider boss killing speed in a vacuum if that makes sense.
multishot definitely needs more damage, when you compare to hammers doing 16k and sorc fireballs doing 16k the bowazon is pretty expensive to build with faith and windforce options. not to mention all the other top end gear you need to barely hit 4-6k and even way less if you swap out for some MF gear
That’s not really a multishot problem but rather a problem with the game that requires addressing more deeply.
If you’re only going by character screen damage, yes that makes multishot look weak, but multishot’s strength is in the number of arrows shot (20 arrows per volley) and the fact that arrows pierce, crit, deal cold/poison damage, leech and proc amp damage (middle 2 arrows).
im not saying each arrow needs to do that damage but just remove the negative damage modifier or maybe add some synergies.
this!
come on guys, solve this please, multishot needs more damage and the other things asked in the first post
Multiple Shot need AR for level of skill. In PTR WF +200dext i only have around 2000 AR.
please blizzard, solve it