If you take away D2Jsp. You would also have to delete Nonladder and delete every item/character after the ladder ended to clear all unfair advantages that are not against the ToS. Because as already said in this thread, people traded full Nonladder accounts/toons vs premium Items in Ladder. Lots of D2 players are Ladder only players, they have no use for the Nonladder toons. But someone who used to main Nonladder and just started ladder for the runewords or whatever reason, might have been interested in perfecting the Nonladder toon with the sweet 20/20/10 anni or 20/20 Torch, the perf cta or whatever.
Still people would have an advantage with better/more:
PCs, Internet, Friends, Experience, Time, etc.
Just saying that you will not have an even competition in a 20 year old game, no matter what you do. People always find ways to gain advantages. Most of them are not cheating per definition (trading, jsp,nonladder/ladder trades, boosting groups) others are cheating per ToS ( like: bots or buying/selling property of Blizzard vs real world currency such as cryptos or money).
Brochet is talking about a “fair” competition, but says jsp is cheating. Which is per ToS not. But he doesn’t like it because he thinks it’s unfair.
Others might think it’s unfair, that a streamer gets paid to play d2 24/7, while they have to work a different job.
Fair does not matter in such games. As long as people are not cheating (ToS) it’s as fair as it gets.
You can rage about it and forum war till the end of days. But all you gain with all the hate posts against jsp, is more people knowing and using jsp. It’s not cheating, no matter how often you say it. It’s not a shady internet side that installs you viruses and keylogger. It’s just a trading forum.
I guess you don’t like facts and trhink facts are excuses.
Saying that having more friends is an unfair advantage is not a fact, it is an excuse. and a poor one at that.
Will just ignore teh rest of what you said, it is a repeat of what you said in this thred and others multiple times and just an excuse for jsp FG existing because “you can’t compete anyway”.
And I agree, it is just a trading forum that uses a RMT 3rd party currency that never resets. That’s not an excuse, that’s a fact, hope you can spot teh difference but won’t hold my breath.
I see you are triggered again. It seems like I found a hurting spot.
Maybe swipe the saliva off your mouth before you kiss your honey.
I don’t have to make excuses. It’s a game and not my life. I’m just offering different points of view.
You on the other hand spread false information. You can call it fact all day, but FG is not RMT per se and you never have to spend money on that website to be able to trade for your items.
Go on please make another 20 posts about it. It’s good advertisement for D2jsp.
The only one triggered is you since you feel you have to defend this wensite. If you did not care about what I was saying you would just move on and not answer.
Don’t even know what that has to do with anything except it really looks like you’re triggered.
You can look at FG from any angle and it is still bought with real money and does not reset. It also can be used in other games, or be carried from other games. That’s not a point of view because theres no angle, that’s what is called a fact.
What false information do I spread? That FG is spawned by people spending cash? That’s the truth. That FG can be used early ladder and does not reset? Also true. That you can carry it from one game to the other making people that do not use it at a disadvantage? Also true.
So, where do I spread false info here? Please let me know.
But someone had to spend money to create this FG to begin with, if this currency was created by real money it is real money trading. Not saying YOU bought FG or even that the majority does, does not change the fact that the currency itself was made by echanging real money for it aka RMT.
While I don’t need your approval for anything I am not sure this is such a good advert for the site, but I can always be wrong.
That’s the false information. It was explained to you several times, but you still insist on FG being RMT and that >>>ALL<<< FG has been bought.
But you won’t understand the information given to you, because you are very triggered by this topic. I for myself just can’t stand people spreading false information.
FG was given up for free when it was first created at a rate of 0.01 by forum post, that option is long gone so yes, not all but tha vast majority of it. I call it like I see it, if 90%+ of FG has been created using real money it is real money trading, stay salty about it as much as you want.
I don’t need anyone to feed me information, I can find it by myself and I did. Most FG in circulation was purchased with real money.
Why does it matter ? If it is used as conduit to facilitate trade.
Also lets say we have 3actors A, B, C.
A wants item from B, B wants item from C and C wants it from A.
They can either make an agreement and to trust and swap em or:
A gives B fg to get his item, B gives C fg to get his item, C gives fg to A to get his item.
In the end all 3 have their items, and in case it cost the same lets say pul nothing has even changed. In reality this chain is longer than 3 people, it can be hundreds people or thousands but you get the point.
So by the end items were moved between players nothing else. No monetary value was generated. How hard is to grasp this ?
And verbal agreement still nas nothing to do with teh game, and can be used as a conduit to trade items between games/ladder non ladder. Your point does not hold here.
No monetary value for D2jsp users. Sorry was not specific enough.
Look Dreadzz you seem more sensible that some of others here, just try to analyze the idea as a concept and you will get it I think.
Name your sources. I want every FG listed as “purchased” or “claimed otherwise”.
Your “Information” and your “facts” are more a you “feel like it is that way”.
90%+ would be lots of money. I guess Paul would live in a hollywood mansion by now if it were like that. Yogi alone has more than 15 000 000 fg which would translate roughly to about 470 000 Dollars.
A verbal agreement is not a currency so I don’t know where you try to get at.
Don’t disagree with that point, it still has monetary value intresecally (is that a word? Sorry my knowledge of english language only goes so far).
Thanks for the compliment, I think I really get it and I still think it is a bad system for the game, not for you, teh end user of course. I don’t blame you for using it, you do you.
People who don’t spend money on JSP are not cheating because they are not spending real money. It’s irrelevant if someone 5 or 10 years ago bought it. Nice maturity level you have on you.
If you get items on JSP your using a vehicle that only exists because of RMT to get your items. Even if your not buying the FG or earning it legitimately yourself the whole infrastructure of JSP is built on RMT, so your complicit in it as well
By your argument, all players are complicit in RMT because they trade High Runes, due to how RMT websites will have 24/7 teams farming them to sell for cash, which players then use to trade, or use.
Well yea if your taking frees or trading with people who got there items from JSP it’s the same thing ofc, complicit in RMT. Atleast the people who don’t use JSP are trying though
