Is Hustle runeword available for bows? This will break Bowazons meta

You can get enough attack rating with Windforce that another socket option will out perform a Jah rune there, especially if you decide to use Strafe to finish off mobs, as a fix to Strafe is also coming in patch 2.6.

40/15max is a good option for the bow, but do not use 40/15max jewels inside circlets or body armours as they are bugged and do less damage than what they are supposed to.

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40ed 15max for WF

The only better would be 30ed 18 max 10 min :slight_smile:
But imagine finding something like that

Jah isn’t needed, you can easily buff out the AR even with Windforce, 40ed 15 max gives just too much damage.

I still doubt that. ITD seems too important for terrorzones.

Regardless im making a day 1 bowzon for the first time because of hustle đŸ«Ą

What do you need ITD for when u easily can have 10k-20k AR? And thats without Demon Limb!

Ur forgetting Bowazon has very high Dex, like 400-500, which is huge AR in itself.
She also stacks +max/AR charms anyway, and Penetration skill gives a HUGE amount of AR, her bow skills do too
 Raven frost on top of that and you have 20k AR with Windforce. Thats overkill far over 95% chance to hit everything. And vs bosses u can just use Guided Arrow which always hits.

I thought 2.4 fixed the strafe issue? Is it still doing less damage than it’s supposed to do?

You may not have 95% chance to hit for all monsters in terror zones using multishot
 but it’s good enough that other socketing options start to outweigh socketing it with a Jah.

I wouldn’t get your hopes up (yet), Blizzard stated that Hustle is an “early mobility option, providing increased Movement Speed without the teleport aspect of the Enigma Rune Word”. We might see this nerfed back to not use Burst of Speed but say
 Increased Speed instead.

2.4 was just a buff to Strafe to remove the damage penalty and add attack rating per level, as well as get damage synergies from Multishot and Guided Arrow. The damage synergies are fine, but the other Strafe buffs didn’t apply properly, and I guess will both be fixed in 2.6.

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This is a great idea! Wont shake the meta, and weapon + armor will give a huge FRW for early farming
 without crashing half of the meta in the game, breaking all IAS breakpoints


I think i’d rather use harmony but see the point. I still think remove BoS and drop the rune rarity to ~lum. It’d be great for mobility in nightmare and early hell. The weapon needs serious revamp or just to be deleted without the BoS


Yeah. What’s your point?
We all know patches and changes are coming and have already seen entire builds turned to ruin (RIP FCWB) or buffed to utter BS-levels (cold sorc). If you weren’t prepared after things like that - that’s on you.

It’s more than that though, it’s breaking the fundamentals of item balance when you have Windforce, a bow that is much easier to come by, that now out-performs Faith, a bow that is much harder to come by.

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Are you not reading on purpose?

  1. I stated my point.

  2. Blizzard openly said Hustle is meant just for FRW for low lvl farming, it instead will break all IAS breakpoints in the game - which i find a mistake (which i explained why). I am hoping Blizzard will fix it during PTR, for example changing BoS into Increased Speed.

Rarity =/= balance though, tbh I’ve had more jah rune drops than windforce drops. We can talk about perceived value all day long, but at the end of the day, market value should not be the determinant of item strength. Sure, you can argue finding a +3/15 base for faith, but a naked faith beats out windforce, the base item is just icing.

At the end of the day, I think a vast majority of people want to see BOS possible, at least for this ladder. Physical builds that would use it are so far behind casters that there really isn’t a good reason to gate keep BOS.

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There are SO MANY ways to improve physical builds in a good way.
This is one is not.

That’s driven by how you farm, but on the aggregate, there are plenty of spare Windforces floating about than spare Jah runes, especially enough Jah runes (8) to roll a perfect Faith for each instance of an existing Windforce.

Keep in mind, when you find a Jah rune, Ohm rune and a 4 socket bow, you’re not finding a Faith, you’re finding the ingredients to make a Faith. In all probability, those runes will go towards making something else, like Phoenix, Ice or Enigma, depending on the player that finds them.

Market value? No. Item rarity? Yes.

Not anymore, not once this Burst of Speed proc hits a live patch.

They want to see melee builds perform closer to parity to casters. How we get there matters though, and introducing game breaking items to address balance is not a good way to do this.

Good luck finding even one 3/20 sc

Calling this a game breaking item is an overreaction. Faith, by all means, is a ‘game breaking item’ when it released, completely nuking windforce value.

Item rarity has never been the metric for an items power level, and market value tends to reflect power level. A windforce, for instance, if it were the BIS bow, would be worth more than an ist. Potentially even a Jah rune value, thats how rare windforce is. If tasked to find a jah rune or a windforce, I’d much rather find a Jah rune.

I’m willing to lose whatever percieved value I’ve accrued on my non ladder bowa if it means new game play options that help the phys bowa earlier and revitalizes the equipment loadout. We’ve been building this bowa for the past 15+ years, lol.

All hail BOS.

Ok then Nerf hustle so it cant be used on bows and ill just go enjoy a frenzy barb.

Nerfing BoS on the weapon has greater implications than it just opening up better gearing options for bowzons.

They nerfed the attack speed of werebears and ww barbarians back in 2.4. Like literally made them worse. This rw for better or worse bandaids those nerfs.

This would make it one of the worst rws in the game, even if it had 100% frw.

I think this is awesome if it can be used in bows. I found a Windforce on Single Player and it basically sits in my stash because Faith is better. Jah in my experience is a whole lot less rare than Windforce, so to me it makes sense to bring some more bows like Windforce into the mix. Maybe Eaglehorn will even be worth using again! Haven’t done the math on that, but I have some nostalgia for that bow :slight_smile:

Windforce should be on par with faith, you have better luck finding the runes than the bow.

This is why items suck.