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Which fact? This?

There is no verificable source for this
Im not saying it isnt true, we just cant confirm that bc blizz never said anything about this and i wont take the word of “formers” bot creators on this matter, cheaters tend to cheat

And anything else like this…

Is nothing but the good and old conjecturing

So yeah, feel free to push any narrative that makes you sleep at night

The most perverse form of anti-cheat comes from Vanguard which is valorants anti cheat. It could be a malicious thing, it simply isn’t, but my point is, they can’t even full stop cheaters.

That being said in a game like D2R you could certainly setup AI data-based markets for bot like activity that could easily flag gameplay as potential for botting. You could do it with soft markers that would only analyize simple date or much more complex ones which would be more difficult to setup, but more accurate. Regardless they could find common points that bots share and use that to flag accounts for review and have some interns spend 10 hours a week reviewing gameplay.

There are 100% ways they could thwart botting, maybe not stop it, but make it much less worthwhile. They however will never do this. They will slowly update warden. Flag names until they need funds or want to count bad news or review, then ban a mass of people after they’ve made profit, then put the game on sale in hopes that botters buy all of their accounts again generating fake interest in their game and padding their stock price.

Who is a former bot creator? Not me? What?

20 years and you’re saying you cannot confirm that they’re not doing anything? There are adults about to be of drinking age in the states that were born after JSP started. But nobody in that time period where the company btw had lawyers, could write a letter?

Sry
Meant the owners of jsp
Should be more clear when saying such things

So i meant that anything they may have said is not trustworthy info

Game was abandoned after blizz north
Abandoned games dont get any attention, including legal attention

So saying blizz didnt anything bc they couldnt is also a narrative

Indeed this. Well someone’s pockets are getting fatter from it and it must be the right people. I’d pay a sub for D2R for if they guaranteed 100% bot free gameplay.

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Pretty big secret for 2 companies to keep. Remember when acti-trash sued the cheats maker for call of duty? We knew about that instantly. But your presumed thought that they’re able to for the past 20 years stop JSP by simply writing a letter, but haven’t done that or that the case has taken 20 years is a pretty decent theory.

So now they’re not suing, but they could, but they sued many other people who actually broke the rules, but JSP has been JSP for 20 years, but the people they sued were only doing the things they were sued for, for about a year. Crazy how they just forgot about JSP.

Or perhaps they can’t and don’t want to do anything about it because let’s be honest. JSP is the best AH patch this game ever asked for. Honestly it is more impressive than anything the D2R devs have added. Though someone did make me think earlier. Traps, shared stash tabs, pindle /cow portal changes are good changes. Still though JSP is better.

Edit: thanks for clarifying that up btw. I was confused for a second.

Not enough. If a game is enticing enough right you’ll never outpace the spending of a botter and agree to it. 3ladders x 20 dollars everytime after a ban wave happens. 3 ladders a year means botters spend 60 dollars per bot capibility per year. The entire fanbase paying 10/year doesn’t outmatch that. I get that we would all pay it, but they’re greedy and they want all the money.

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Not presuming…not a theory
Nintendo has been doing this for decades to anyone messing with their IP

Opinions doesnt matter on this
The point is
Its crystal clear they have the legal grounds and this is the only fact present in this discussion

Why they never bothered? Speculation

Yes, nintendo does sue people. Know what’s crazy it doesn’t take them 20 years to do it. Nor any large company for that matter. Class actions and major corporations battling don’t wait 20 years.

It is is for sure crystal clear that there is absolutely nothing Blizzard could ever do about the website D2JSP under any circumstance. They have broken no laws what so ever. You can wish they were all you’d like, but there is no law they’ve broken.

As to why they never bothered despite the countless bravata threads on the daily? It is because their lawyers told them it wasn’t possible and that they fully support JSP for making the AH they forgot to make when they released D2LOD.

They did and i just explained how

Assisting others in violating someone elses IP is a felony called “crime facilitation”

As i said
Speculating is free of charges

So if I make a post on YT comments selling my shako for your dollar, then blizzard can sue JSP?

Btw there was just a new story about this exact same thing a few minutes ago which is the only reason why I can recite it. You cannot sue a host party for the actions of a thirt party user on a public access entity on the internet. Article 290 I believe is what it was called. American law and 2x American companies.

Further beyond that their IP is not being violated and it wouldn’t stand in any court. Your augment would be akin to skill reselling website for CSGO breaking IP law, which simply isn’t the case.

Here is a better analogy

If someone distributes a book he doesnt own the rights to distribute through the amazon

Blizz can certainly sue the amazon too

Yes, you are not responsible for third party actions and crimes but jsp profited from any FG used in any transaction there, jsp is completely aware that people selling blizz property without express authorization constitutes the crime of IP violation and/or illegal distribution
So the line of objective responsibility is clear

You couldn’t argue that JSP profited from that trade. Their money is made when someone purchases forum gold. What they do with it after is up to them. I could buy a name change or I could buy a D2 item. They’re under no legal obligation to stop anyone from using forum gold nor even real money from buying an item. To be legally culpable they would have to profit directly from that sale which is not the case. Their profit is all made at the point at which the forum gold is sold to the individual.

Sorry but there is a reason why it has never gone to court, it is because they have no case. When blizzard is out there suing broke teenagers for creating hacks, there would be no reason for them not to do the same for JSP if it were possible.

Each botter guy is buying 8+ copies of the game. Its excellent revenue for them. Then occasionally ban some, and they buy more. The whole RMT market is great for sales. Every shady player is worth 10 or more normal customers.

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Providing a facilitating system and also profiting from it make them legally responsible

Speculation

But they did direct profited from it with every single fg that was bought and used to buy d2 items

They’re not profiting off the trade. There is no rake for the trade. There is no legal case against them, no matter how much you want to pretend there is one.

Different transaction, with nothing about D2 involved. You are paying for forum gold (one transaction totally legal). They are under no obligation to monitor what individuals do with that forum gold afterward.

Ofc they are
They are profiting from people who bought the currency used on those trades

Its like saying amazon doesnt profit also from selling gift cards

Im not pretending anything
Its you whos completely in denial

Well
According to jsp paladins jsp is the d2 defiinitive tradr system
So yeah, almost everything there is about d2

Yes they are
People are commiting crimes in their site and they are fully aware of it
In fact, they facilitate the commitiment of said crimes

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If I buy potatoes and then trade those potatoes for crack. Are the potato dealers liable for my crack buying?

Also basic accounting says they don’t profit off of giftcards. They profit off the item sale, at least that is when the profit is realized. Not only that but either way at some point there isn’t profit regardless. Either at the time of the sale of the gift card or when the item is given to the user with no more money exhanging hands.

You’re delusional if you think a billion dollar company wouldn’t sue another tiny company if they had a legal basis to do so and were infringing on their IP. They’d have zero reason not to. There would even be a net positive in money from the whole thing. But sure they just let it happen even though you’re certain it would be a open and shut case.

meanwhile they take their time to sue 16 year old hack creators with no money and no potential recoup for the cost of their lawyers time spent. Crazy will sue for 0 but not for 100’s of thousands?

Except the site features that you can use FG for? Or the name change which costs fg? Or the 70 other games platforms that are traded on. Or any of the account features which cost FG. Crazy how FG could be used for many thing I know you didn’t know that, but I’m here to let you know brother!

If you see someone shoplift you have to report it? Sorry that isn’t the case. I didn’t facilitate that candy bar being lifted. And again 290 is free speech in the US where this argument would take place and they’re under zero legal obligation to monitor or control or stop any of it.

Winning a lawsuit in a federal court against the owner of the website. I can’t mention any names here. We all know the name though. Either way it could happen but I doubt it will as the Supreme Court on federal level is mostly conservative.

They tried. Blizz and Paul spoke during the 2000s. They agreed together that Paul will stop selling and developing the d2jsp bot while they can continue to be a trading platform. Afterwards blizzard stopped providing new meaningful patches to classic d2. It was all documented on blizzhackers website, probably much of it is still online somewhere. They had pictures of Paul and his family too :laughing: so get over it folks, blizz has cemented d2jsp’s place in history. I would be willing to bet Paul has been sending blizz a check every month for over 15 years.

D2jsp has even been featured in a positive light within articles about blizz’s company perfomance…

https://seekingalpha.com/article/724751-the-worlds-most-lucrative-video-game-maker-has-no-equal

They only help blizz make more money…video game makers are not charity, they are money machines, they only do things in the interest of their shareholders.

Its 2001 game engine woth a new skin…
Nothing changed…bot that were useable in lod is also working in d2r.

Simple as that

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