Meh I don’t see it, From everything I’ve seen and or experienced the skills and itemization suck compared to Diablo 2’s, Perhaps your right about being better than Diablo 3’s But not Diablo 2’s and perhaps not even Diablo 1’s skills and itemization and as for story? 
poe2 is kinda dead on arrival just because they insisted on keeping their homemade archaic engine while d4 uses a fresh brand new one 
d4 ppl will experience smoothness beyond belief and poe2 will still hiccup and jam in high density lol!
ppl will get to maps, experience terrible performances, and switch to d4 for the smoothness/fluidity
*ofc if all you care for is complexity without regards to performances/fluidity then poe2 will be the one for you.
No you can’t, but from what I see, legendary items drop often enough so you don’t quite need to worry about having to trade, and did I mention the codex of legendary powers as well. The only important thing is the rare items serving as base, which are freely tradable.
Well, here’s my personal ranking for best in category:
Best combat smoothness (d3, soon to be surpassed by d4)
Best endgame: PoE
Best skill customization: last epoch
Best itemization: d2 (except the fact that 90% set and unique items are useless)
D2 has many things to be proud of but definitely not its skill system lol. Archaic at best. Skill wise, maybe d2 is only better than d3, but lose out to all other competitors on the market, including d4.
Story wise, I will buy rhykker’s point this time, that d4 has the best story telling of the entire diablo series.
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I think d2 skill system with level progression is very good, only issue is that many skills are not very good and should be buffed or have improved utility.
There is one thing Rod Fergusson, General Manager said we don’t want people to have to go looking for build guides on the internet
build guides All I can say about that is anyone who doesn’t look up a build guide is a moron 
Because whilst it may be simpler than Diablo II’s skill tree it’s still far too complex to blindly allocate skill points without knowing what you wanna go for! And accomplish
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So basically anything you go with will kill entire content without any excitement of building your character. Thats what it is.
Like I said, D4 is there to kill off D3 not D2.
D2 will outlive D4 just like it outlived D3. Blizzard learned absolutely nothing. But who cares. Sales is what counts, who cares if people stop playing D4, they make another D that will sell milions.
I started playing D2R sorc last year. Im playing on and off, got some bis items but with my playstyle Im still 2-3 years away from maxing her out damage wise. But that journey is exciting to me and I enjoy it.
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I’ve always liked Assassins And the most recent patch enabled an awesome build that was never viable before the Blade Fury Build Blade Fury Build
Everything available to be traded is the reason 99.99% of loot on the floor in PoE is complete trash and not even worth unhiding from your filter.
Everything available for trade may have worked better before the hyper-connected internet age of today, but now with absolutely everyone on forums or discords, trading is ubiquitous and super easy. Even if the devs were to provide no official trading venue, it would simply be done on another platform.
This ease of trade makes it so effortless to find gear you want that all drops have to be tuned to be absolute rubbish. This also turns ARPGs into currency grinds instead loot-hunt games. You save up currency to go buy your upgrade instead of finding it on the ground yourself. With D3 in particular, this ended up feeling like a wage job instead of a game (people talked about their character’s strength in terms of gold it could make per hour).
The video game industry solved this problem with loot-focused games that bind items to the character/account. D4 will still have some trade, but the powerful items will be found through play and not through wagee-like currency grinds. PoE players will still be talking about how much chaos/div orbs they can farm in an hour, and (hopefully) D4 players will be talking about the awesome item that dropped off a boss.
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There be ppl who stick to both d3 and d2. Thats nothing new. Ppl have different taste.
D3 is still being played. U might continue to play d2 but that doesnt mean other ppl wont continue to play d3.
They learned alot though. They avoided alot of bad stuff from d2, d3, d1, di in d4. Infact they got data to help them figure out what the majority of ppl prefer.
However they wont listen to d2 purists thoughts as d4 is a new game and not d2 remake.
Thats good for u. After that u have plenty of other games to try out if u want a new challenge instead of the same old.
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No no no. D3 bandwagon will jump onto D4 bandwagon. D3 will be destroyed for good and Blizz will drop support like they did for HOTS. D4 is not a new game because they brought runes called after runes from D2 so its not a new game, its playing on D2 fans nostalgia to get them in playing. D3 however is done, finished. Mark my words when D4 comes out.
Also I dont like class specific drops. I give u an example why.
Again when I speak about class specific drops it goes hand in hand with ploot and bind on pick up/soulbound items. As a barb I enjoyed finding Griffons. Although useless for me I could do other things with it. Sell for good runes that will give me big headstart so there is always that excitement that early into the game you can basically be pimped out if you find right items. The dopamine shoots through the roof.
With Blizz no trading/ploot/soulbound whatever crap that excitement is gone! All items across the board; legendary staves, axes, shield whatever have the same drop rate and everyone gearing up equally subject to hours they put. Thats not the case with Diablo 2 where pure luck can set your character for the rest of the season. And thats exciting to me, that after 100 hours of nothing I get Ber rune, then 2 hours later Griffons. Im super happy, depression cured.
I dont think Blizz realize how exciting it is to find something valuable in D2 compared to D3 for example. But again ‘we cant profit of tradeable gear so no one will’ philosophy its just low.
Also makes me wonder when Blizz will put their hands on this topic to lock it. Its gaining traction so I wont be surprised if they lock it. They dont like ppl bashing their games. Although its not really bashing if truth is to be told?
I will remain an open critic of the D4 and directions it takes. Why wouldn’t you include charms in D4? They worked in D2 fine, extra resses, extra magic find, +skills? Why is it only gear? I dont understand that. Apologies, im repeating myself. But ppl cmon that stuff is gone so less content again, less options to customize your character.
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Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard. If its not a new game why would d3 players play d4? According to your logic its like d2 because it reuse names from the franchise. I guess its a d3 reskin aswell because it got something called paragon? Its common that a new entry reuse old item names etc.
The diablo name alone is enough to bring old diablo fans. However they arent after the old d2 purists. Sane ppl know that d4 wont be a d2 remaster nor a d3 remaster.
D3 is up and running even after d2r, DI, LA and poe been released. So why would d4 change that? The game is different from d3 and ppl who love d3 wont automaticly love d4.
And i dont like open trade. Its a matter of opinion and taste. Doesnt mean that u or me are right and blizzard have learn nothing. Blizzard base alot of their decisions on actual data.
Its exciting to d2 fans. Just like ppl who love slotmachines. Not everyone enjoys gambling or find it exciting.
Opinions. U have the right to have a opinion. The truth is that ppl like different things. Not everyone thinks d2 is the greatest game ever. Ppl play d1, d3, DI aswell and some might even prefer one of these.
Did u try the beta? I think d4 did alot of good things. I would say d4 is far superiour to d2. Its not even close imo. U might want some things in d4 for the sake of nostalgia but that doesnt mean it fit. However im not saying that charms will or will not exist in d4. I cant answer that without breaking the NDA
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The diablo name alone is enough to bring old diablo fans. However they arent after the old d2 purists. Sane ppl know that d4 wont be a d2 remaster nor a d3 remaster.
Can you read first sentence again? After the D3 flop I seriously doubt u will get same reception as D3 had. D3 only sold well on the backbone of D2. D4 will not repeat that. A lot of people learned they lesson after D3 messup. Also did you watched latest Dbrunski video? Towards the ends he clearly says he dont like many directions devs took and he played beta.
Answering your other question; I said I like full trading, you said you dont. What common sense tells you about possible solution?
Also remember that D4 is also a console friendly game. Thats means it cannot be too complicated in a character development. Has to be limited. But again console guys wants to play COD not slow paced, top down game like that. Diablo games will not gain anymore fans. This is it. On top of that u got Lost Ark already, there is no need for D4. Well there is but not for D4 in its current state.
Personally I dont need D4, give me some beefed up expansion for D2R, I will happily pay Blizz that 20-30$ and I can stay in my niche for years to come and you can have whatever you want with D4. Also if Blizz released a expansion for D2R I will delete this thread and all others criticizing D4 as I won’t care anymore.
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65mil d3 players. Thats not a flop. Infact is much much much more than d2 ever had.
Not to mention how DI brought new fans to the diablo franchise. D2 players are a minority.
Thats just emotional reasoning. Even if every single player which played d2 bought d3 it still wouldnt reach close to 65mil players. Again d2 players are a minority.
I played beta. No need to watch a d2 fanboy and copy his opinions. He is as much bias as llama. Some ppl have the ability to form their own opinion. We all know the d2 streamers would love d4 to be more like d2.
Common sense tells me they base their decision on objective fact and data.
And still the fanbase is growing. U need to seperate your emotions from fact. Those are simply not the same thing.
Alot of d2 purists believe the same. However d4 aint catering d2 purists. Its a new game for those who wants to try something new. Its a diablo game different from the previous titles.
And like 100 million other ppl will pay 70€ for diablo 4. Obv we both know where blizzard will put their resources. The d2 population is too small for them to care about at this point. The majority of ppl are more interrested in a new game.
Its a new game for those who wants to try something new.
Yea we already had something new with D3 and how did that go down?
That discussion with you is pointless since you are dead set on D4 to be succesful. Myself on the other hand will sit and watch, who knows maybe I will pick it up in 3-5 years time if its still going strong.
65mil players. The most sold pc game up to the point. 10y later and still considered a classic. Diablo fanbase bigger than it ever been. I would say it went pretty well. Or more like it went very well.
The discussion is pointless because its not d2 and u only want d2. I tried d4 and i liked it. Success or not. I know what i like. And i know for a fact that its not a d3 or d2 reskin but actually a new game.
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Smart loot does not mean exclusively class specific loot. With 5 classes, it kind of sucks if 80% of class-specific drops are not useable by the class you are actually playing.
In smart loot, only 15% are for other classes. One can still get items for other classes.
Inwant to find my own gear and not trade for gear.
Just an FYI to all of those that aren’t in Alpha and later versions of the beta…
If you Hate D3 you’re going to really hate DIV
If you Love D2R you’re going to want to skip DIV
They went the route of D3 and its not very good. Just as D3 was early on DIV will also be a ghost town
Sad days for Diablo fans.
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Yeah right! 
And if you believe that I have beach front property you can buy in the middle of the pacific…It’s just a couple of miles straight down
Sad days for d2 purists, there I correct it for you. D2 fans don’t represent diablo fans, and especially d2 purists don’t represent d2 fans.
I love D2R, I like D3, and I’m gonna buy D4 with my next month’s salary. No problem with that. I want to skip nothing.
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There is a nice reddit post with 56k+ likes in regard to DIV preorder and game itself and even under Facebook Diablo preorder. Go read some comments.
Well, preorder to get access to beta so you get opportunity to help devs fix game and find bugs its well…Game is designed to be an inteliigent cash grab so people keep throwing money at it. The days of stadalone games will be soon over and we will have Amazon Prime, Microsoft subscription model where game is free for $20 a month or whatever subscription plan.
Mark my words, this is where the future of gaming goes and Blizz wants to be on the forefront.