I understand what you’re saying but I disagree. In order to average 1 HR every season you only have to roll runes17 148 times.
Rolling runes 17 happens several times an hour if running efficiently, and LK runs are even better for ber and jah than rolling runes17.
I can pretty much roll runes17 every 5-10 minutes without fail unless having very bad RNG luck.
The point I was trying to make is everyone wants something changed. It might be something small like the guy who wants a change to the amount of arrows in a stack or something big like removing 100% immunity’s or some sort of personal loot system. We don’t all agree on what we want changed and that’s fine.
Maybe nothing gets changed and that’s also fine… (well I wouldn’t care anyway)
The problem arises when people on this forum push for the changes they want and attempt to prevent the changes other people want. That’s the only reason I joined the discussion here on the forum.
That’s pretty rough luck I know its off topic but try joining an 8player run and teleporting around all the super chests in act3 before they get to the good waves for exp in the throne. It’s a fairly easy although lots of people do it nowadays so more often that not someone else is already in there and you have to race.
could you show where you are getting those numbers from?
its been a long while since i looked at the drop tabled( roughly 15 years)
Diablo2wiki item drop tutorial, or any number of other sites.
Has all the information on treasure classes and the 17 rune groups.
ok lets set one thing straight, i am not going to teleport around doing “chest opening” runs in act 3 for hours at a time no matter what the HR rune drop rate is…
im going to be playing the game killing monsters…
its one thing to fight a specific boss… but opening chests?
jesus if THAT’S where the runes are coming from…
maybe that’s the reason why people bot…
Yup, ppl do this 24hrs a day…on bots now…but they will manually do it if the bots are taken care of
Lol go read the patch notes for the original game and see how much they changed.
There are lots of things you can squeeze in during the baal runs, its like going for a exp shrine. It’s really fast. If your strong enough you can go kill diablo and get to baal in time for the decent waves and baal, I used to kill nilithak when I was on my barb last time I played.
That was with a robot running the baal run’s though if we where all human would probably have to help do the actual run 
I try to follow the bear sorc bots cause they are slower so it gives more time to farm everything and then try and steal their Baal drops
Also they run tunnels so you can just tele follow the bot to tunnels then shank everything.
They even thank you and tell you you’re fast if you get an item in front of them
bear sorc bots lol they must have been getting bored to run those Yeh the challenge was to go get whatever extra juice you where after , keys chests extra exp or whatever then make it to throne room in time for good waves and baal. It was like a mini game I thought that’s what everyone did.
Your kind of forced too since the robots are the only 8 player games you can find from the lobby, unless your part of some die hard D2 Discord group I spose.
and those robots don’t hang around lemme tell you entire run is done in double quick time and if there other people doing what your doing almost everything worth killing or looting is done and dusted inside of that fast run.
With no robots and maybe personal loot its going to be a brave new world hehe