because the player base left and the servers have stupid restriction on them atm for joining/creating games.
if the pop went up the servers would start dying again they need to fix it first.
i dont see a caveat that says once they settle down (but only if its for reasons we like)
does this mean you are agreeing with the definition you linked or just changing topics to deflect?
So now you are claiming that server stability had nothing to do with ladder launch date and in the very next sentence say they did not prioritize fixing servers.
no, you just cant read. im saying the server issues have nothing to do with the fact they hadnt finished getting ladder ready. even if there were not server issues ladder was not finished for launch is my argument
Getting ladder ready is trivial. Literally, Rod said ladder was just a matter of turning it on after the game/servers were stable. L2R
would love to see that quote where he said it was finished and a simple matter of turning on.
and if thats the case why isnt it turned on? (hint: that wasnt the case given they are literally having to test it right now)
the irony of you telling me to read when calling me out for something that is only a contradiction to the illiterate. you are by far the most annoying person on this forum and its because you cant read or use basic logic. at least the other people that disagree with me can read
You can not be serious. I have already quoted that to you multiple times. It is the sentence before “shortly after everything settles down”.
Of course, they are going to do a PTR first to make sure nothing goes sideways.
Do you understand the the primary definition of illiterate refers to someone who can not read or write? There is a certain irony in attacking another forum poster as “illiterate”.
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“We want to make sure the game is stable and ready for ladder before we turn that on.”
this does not mean it is ready to turn it on, just that they need to do things before they can turn it on but not that those are the ONLY things. thats a big assumption you are making which is comical given the heat ive gotten for assuming shortly after means less than 6 months
whatever reading you think you are doing isnt it. you might be able to pronounce the words in your head but you dont seem to know what they mean
Do you agree that Rod’s first sentence demonstrates that the game/servers needed to be stable as a pre-requisite for ladder to occur?
i agree that things need to “settle down” as a prereq yes
and i also agree the first sentence says servers need to be stable.
lets not ignore the shortly after time line though which is why my example with the wording is important that you cant grasp
ill do it shortly after once i shower
ill do it shortly after i shower
the latter could be very ambiguous as i may never shower. the first saying shower is still a pre req but it will be shortly after 5 pm that i shower
His first sentence said that the game needed to be stable first.
Shorty after refers to “everything settles down” not launch.
yep i went back and edited, i agree
no it does not, which is why you have to leave out the word once in your argument. once is the trigger event for ladder which will happen shortly after launch. how do you still not get this, take your opinion of me away and try and read without the bias. if you are still wondering why i think you are illiterate, its because you cant read the analogy and realize they mean two different things.
once means as soon as. maybe this will help (even though ive done this for you already)
We want to make sure the game is stable and ready for ladder before we turn that on. So it won’t be there for launch but will come shortly after as soon as everything settles down.
you wouldnt say both “shortly after” and “as soon as” about the same event, that doesnt make sense
This is like an Oxford comma argument except we know the syntax.
Game/server stable first, then ladder.
yes, no one is arguing that, we are arguing the timeline, which is shortly after launch. you dont get to play the victim of this syntax war , you literally were the one that started it claiming they never said shortly after launch. so if you want to argue that and you still cant read then so be it, but you do not get to act like i started this and you do not get to make arguments like ‘game server first then ladder’ and act as though you made a argument that isnt already assumed by everyone involved here. you do that so often and make captain obvious arguments that you feel make a point and its obnoxious
so do you not understand my analogy or disagree with it? where is the issue here
Do you think that Blizzard actually committed to start ladder shortly after launch when they did not even know what problems that they would encounter in D2R and how long it would take to fix said issues?
yes i do, considering this was a month and a half prior to launch so they easily had 2 months to deliver a ladder that satisfies even the most extreme definitions of shortly after.
let me show you why this is more than just the qualifying event but also the timing.
hey man can i borrow $100 ill get it to you shortly after christmas once i have a job.
yes you need a job to pay me back but its not the 4th of july and i still dont have my money, so while the qualifying event may not have happened its also not shortly after christmas and not what you made me believe when you were happy to take my money
i find it troubling that every direct question about the analogy - has to be 10 by now - you avoid and talk about something else. so for the analogy about the shower, do you not understand, do you agree with it, do you disagree, whats going on?
You do know that PezRadar said on twitter on Friday that ladder may come in late March if everything went well. April seems likely.
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im confused, i thought ladder was ready to turn on in august? but they need almost a month to make sure it works? and thats only best case scenario? try and connect the dots here
Your analogy does not reflect the current situation.
You need to have your analogy that reflects both of Rod’s sentences. Irrespective if you are getting hung up on whether shortly after refers to launch or “everything settles down” (clearly the latter), it does not matter because PezRadar was clear.
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Not as much as I am sick of posts like this.
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