Then maybe start trading for yourself to not waste so much time on it? Are these people lazy or what? 
You just showed me that its not true, as you are trading for several people and not just for yoursefl. How common is that on JSP? Thats completwly different case vs solo player selling just for themselfs.
Also the fact in-game you are stuck with inaccurate trades, like are you gonna pay Mal or Ist for an item is quite value difference, sometimes you find item for mal sometimes for ist. in JSP its gonna be 9 fg or 10 fg etc, read as 1.1 mal or 1.2 mal etc.
No idea, back in 2003ish it wasnât that uncommon, as most players werenât ready to start an account just for trading. I traded for many, many people in our group, and had a large group of trusted players with an item share agreement. Even recently, though I do not use D2jsp to trade D2 items, I do use it for a different game (which is not a violation of their ToS)
Using jsp to trade is much, much more efficient for that game, and theyâre very similar in nature.
This is just so poor argument. I will blow your mind.
Mal+P gems vs Mal, done.
WOW right? Yeah you can actualy use more items than just Runes for trading to make more accurate trades, but i guess its hard to understand for someone wwho doesnt know anything else than FG or Dollars.
Lol, how much are they paying for this advertisement? 
Such a JSP shill lol.
how sad.
Im not advertising, i dont use JSP myself to trade anything in D2. Also it is not poor argument, there can literally be trade game where guy asks for ist for an item and next day other guy asks mal, in JSP theres gonna be fraction of difference if any.
Better example is that Jah in JSP could cost 4 fg. In-game you could trade item that is worth 100 fg for Jah because nobody will make game O item N 25 jah. You trade Jah for the 100 fg item, then buy 25 Jah on Jsp with the same item. Not advertisement, you simply are missing out though.
Thatâs a possibility, but not everyone wants that P gem and refuses. Then youâre left with either accepting a lower offer than the fair price or not trade at all.
You are either trying to be ignorant or donât comprehend how basic economy works
Blizzard only issues temp bans to gold buyers these days afaik. They like money too much to permanently ban them. When you sacrifice integrity for extra income itâs hard to pretend for them to have some sort of moral high ground.
This information is from people who have shared emails on recent bans related to WoW.
There were definitely times where being on the forum netted me better items than playing the game. I still would rather MF though, I got sick of forum surfing. Itâs just nice to have an efficient way to trade when you really do need it though.
Getting rid of the ladder only restriction definitely means I wonât have to rush that last week of ladder to find very specific trades to make runewords I couldnât make a week later, so in a small way I think D2R will have a small deterrent to its necessity.
I just think the whole argument that jsp isnât more efficient is absolutely crazy. People are allowed to not like the site, but to just put your head in the sand and not realize reality of trading on a forum vs spamming trade channels or making trade games with 7 others max (4 in the case of Switch, and no lobby) is just asinine honestly.
Iâd never use RMT, and I donât even cross-trade games (I wonât be spending FG earned on other games for this one) I donât see the problem with using an IOU system with scammer protection. Theyâre providing a service Blizzard obviously doesnât want to. In many ways, D2jspâs community has made the game far, far better, by organizing tournaments, etc.
So sad.
Sad but true. Itâs the same reason why ban waves happen after a lengthy amount of time. Botters are technically customers too and they seemed to have realized that. Now Iâm usually not a conspiracy theorist but oddly enough the waves are long enough for them to turn a tidy profit and then afford a new account. If bans happened at a rapid pace the cost effectiveness of botting would be ruined.
Which is totally fine of course. They should keep doing that.
But anyone found to have traded with forum gold should be banned tbh. Since it can be hard to determine, better to ban anyone who seem to have traded through JSP, or talk about JSP in-game imo.
Definitely nothing wrong with making trade deals (item for item) through forums in general however. So if other sites wanted to facilitate that, no problem.
âSeems to have tradedâ yeah thatâs way too heavy handed bud, especially since using jsp isnât even against the ToS. If Blizzard would come out and SAY, DEFINITIVELY, they donât want people using it and are going to ban people for it, fine, but with no warning just changing their mind like that would be a huge slap in the face for their most loyal fans.
Thatâs ridiculous. I talked about jsp in the beta. Should I be banned? I didnât trade D2 items for fg, I didnât trade fg for items, but I did talk about it.
Ridiculous.
Blizzard Needs to Make there own trading forum. for d2r and solve this issue. Interesting tid Bit, Google = BUY D2R Items Online There are already domains setup prepared to try and make cash money off D2RâŚ
This is a scary Idea IMO because Most of these 3rd party sites use Botting as there method of acquiring these items.
Of course. I am in no way saying they should just silently start banning people.
It should only happen after an announcement of policy changes, or at least reiterating that they will start enforcing policy they have ignored for years.
Sounds like this is what GGG does in PoE. It is harsh yeah, and not something I would normally be in favor of, but if it works against RMT, it might be worth it. Of course, the way you talk about JSP could be taken into account. If it is not to facilitate trading, then it could get a pass.
Yes and no.
They went from perma bans to 6 month bans for a first offense, to a year etc. Based on the idea that real people care about accounts and it prevents them from doing it again if they get it back.
However, that seems to not really be cutting it as well as they wanted. They are back to some perma bans again I think based on the recent posts on the WoW CS forums.
So yeah, you might get a temp to start with, but donât expect it to always be that way.
Agree. And it should happen before launch, so that players who are doing nothing wrong currently by using jsp, can decide with full information if they want to buy the game, given it would be a massive change.
I can handle just not using jsp, but of course as it stands now, as it is not explicitly against the rules, I will obviously hang out and trade with my friends who happen to use the best trading forum available.
If they update ToS to include not using IOUs, they should say so before launch, else itâs pretty morally repugnant on their part.
Nah Iâd rather be able to transfer my wealth between games.
They canât legally do anything about it.
And a big reason for why using JSP should be bannable. The above is no different from RMT.
D2jsp is A bannable offense the problem is they canât really prove who is using Jsp. to do ban waves, they needa just setup an official trading forum.