I think SSF is a good idea, but I doubt it is not easy to realize. What should be bounds for it?
One stash for each character with 4 stash tabs that cannot be shared to anyone?
How to control bots?
etc.
It is already exist in some form of speedrunners where ppl just recording their SSF from lvl 1 to whatever with empty stash on the start.
Imo it should work the exact same way the regular mode does, except that you can only play alone.
Stash and shared stash should still be there, but of course keeping ssf/regular stashes separated, so ssf shared stash may only be something for your ssf alts.
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Why lol? I dont understand why did you come to that conclusion. Main reason people play online is to engage with community in some way. Mostly trading ir just playing together. People who prefer solo always are very small minority. People who play solo mostly play offline ,not online.
Race to 99 is boring for majority of player base. Most just want high level so their characters have power, for terror zones or crafting/ gamble. Going above certain level just to have higher level is not really exciting. You seriously underestimate number of people interested in solo SFF ladder.
You obviously do also have shared ladder now or you suggest to remove it for SFF? In that case it would make more sense.
TL:DR what he actual means is, no interference of FG scamming whales and no 
s or whatever streamer having perma 8 players games with personal loot goblins who even bot on the side âlet me log on another character real quickâ > join game again drop gg stuff > log back in on the players 8 afk character. SSF would deny that.
I think the few solo people who donât know how to do coop or trade really think that is how everyone else plays. Why would any of us who like to trade, play coop, rush, and get value out of items weâve found, but cannot use give all that up for a pretenders leaderboard? Iâm cool they want their own ladder, I donât this it is a good use of development time nor do I think it is anywhere near as popular as they pretend it is. I really hope for once that botters are successful and win every SSF ladder if it ever comes to the game. Though I doubt blizz is ever going to make a game mode that influences less coop.
0.1% of chance my mate
llama or some other streamer who no lifes the game will still win. FG whales didnât win the last 2 ladders. Also fg has nothing to do with scamming, but keep pretending. Meanwhile out of every single SSF clown on this forum are even one of the ten of you even in the top 100 over the past 3 ladders? If not, it truly will be a losers leaderboard on SSF. Youâre mad at all of the aspects out of your control or that donât matter rather than your own weak gameplay. Try gitting gud, then worry about someone beating you on a leaderboard you were never going to be on top of in the first place.
How can a soloplayer playing players1 be top100 ladder? Please explain.
Why would they care?
I play solo offline because I couldnât give a single flying blue fart what other people do in the game, or how I compare to them.
That said, I am not against the option since I know some people just canât live without comparing themselves to others.
Oh, and the actual difference between a primate brain and a human brain is less than one percent, so you might want to come up with a new insult.
That percent makes a lot of difference dont you think?
Youâre playing offline which again repeating myself is far from the same thing, offline got got adjustable playercommand and static map.
Thereâs no reason to keep the current ladder as it is, since like i was saying before people play on different terms and itâs not really an equal opportunity.
If you dont care about ladder then why bother replying.
like, split what?
there are only two communities
those who play d2r and those who dont
anything else is niche
those who play pvp are niche
those who play exclusively solo are niche
those who play exclusively MP are niche
those who play exclusively to trade are niche
those who go for the 99 race are niche
i dont really understand whats there to fear of ssfâŚmaybe there is nothing and people just want to dictate what others do
one kind of player doesnt exclude the other
people tend to do more than only one type of activity
i dont know how many play group vs solo or how much time they spend on each mode but its very hard to claim any majority or minority in this scenario
I have never, nor would ever, go for 99 myself, I have no interest, but I get the appeal of a SSF Ladder. If they were going to implement something like that though, itâd be interesting to just go all the way and make it a SSF HC P8 Ladder. It would make it that much more of an accomplishment, make botting it dicier, and make it where you couldnât just sleep deprive yourself to the top. It would also make XP gains better so it wouldnât be such a mind-numbingly long slog.
SSF Ladder makes too much sense. Why would they make it hard for streamers to advertise for them for free?
Itâs simple. You make everything soulbound to SSF ladder players. They canât trade at all or join other groups at all. There would be no incentive to bot it other than to win it. But no economic reason. JSP wouldnât factor because you canât trade to get or sell any item. Itâs simply you vs the other SSFers and legitimately Single-Self-Found. Now, who still wants to do it? Stuff would be unbound at the end of season when it transfers over to NL.
If thereâs only 20-30 of them as you predict. they are no threat to you or the game. You can put your hackles down. More options are better. I would probably play it because I play that way anyway because most people in the game are toxic entitled brats. But I donât care about being fast or having an opportunity to compete with groups. I play too many characters to race to 99. I usually have 4-5 in the 90s, but use them for varying things.
Iâm not really against SSF ladder even though I find it to conceptually be a joke and unnecessary.
But the caveat I will state is that I donât think more options are better. This is already a very limited population game with a 3 way server split, a hard to navigate game list that divides players even further by⌠NL/Lad/Hadcore/Softcore/TZ/Non TZ, not to mention you can only see 20 games, that are supposedly nearest to you with a good connection at once unless you properly search for the proper spelling that someone else created their game with. I myself am not a fan of splitting up players in the coop portion of the game anymore than that. Though I donât think SSF will affect that number nearly as much as TZs did.
Btw I fully understand not wanting to play with some of the people on coop ladder. Some people are buttheads. But also sometimes people come in clutch and do your ancients for you and I like to help people whenever I see a game pop up where they need help with a certain quest. I think that public baals were far better organizationally for general XP advancement, but are left behind now because of TZ where everyone is racing for 20-30 mob kills on repeat and it is just far more chaotic than the throne room.
Its not necessary but, its more thoughtful to us who live in the real world.
SSF eliminates outside help.
SSF makes jsp obsolete.
SSF brings true Ladder race competition.
SSF would need a restricted game creation mechanic like in old bnet to allow others a fair chance, this is whats missing in D2R. Its nice making/joining games unrestricted but is also unfair to most players with jobs and families.
Diablo is a multiplayer game at heart but Ladder race is a farce when its easily exploited by abusing antiquated mechanics. D2 had a limit of how many games per hour you could join or create and with that, was much easier to keep pace on the Ladder.
Everyone lives in the âreal worldâ what a weird statement.
You currently donât have to use outside help.
You currently donât have to use JSP
SSF brings nothing new to ladder that would make it âtrueâ other than the skill of whoever has the most mountain dew and doesnât require much sleep. The current ladder is the same thing. Your first to 99 isnât nearly as impressive as perhaps someone who spent the least time getting to 99 which isnât a part of the competition.
There his always a fair chance. Teo/Llama just are better and you want a way to eliminate teamwork, meanwhile theyâd both stomp you on SSF in a solo race as well. You and almost every single person who would play SSF wouldnât stand a chance in either ladder if everyone was racing.
The LOD realm down pacing is what it is. The same nerdy bedpan using redbull drinking adderal snorting players would win. Reaching 99 first isnât impressive. And yall didnât keep pace back then either.
Iâm cool with it being in game. It serves no important purpose and the reasons you listed donât invalidate any of the current ladder winners nor would it stop them from beating you in SSF ladder. So really youâre just hoping the better players donât play it that way you can pretend youâd have a chance.
I would like a SSF mode. If something u can compete with your friends.
Trading makes the game too ez. I understand that ppl who are just all talk pretending that they got all gears SSF but actually didnt are worried that they get exposed. But its rly not about them but about those ppl who enjoy competing with others on equal terms.
Also a timer showing hours played would be a nice addition to that mode. Simular to how they do it in d3.
Streamers with a small army of followers playing unrestricted for views is fair for everyone right? They can no life the season for that #1 spot. A seperate SSF mode would not impact normal play and you could still support your favorite no life streamer