Diablo 2: Resurrected - Censored Edition

Blizzard strikes again. Not buying this now. I’ll find an uncensored version somewhere else.
Strike 3, I’m done with Blizzard.

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What OP is trying to say, Diablo I and II conveyed an aura of fear. Entering a dungeon in the second game was not the same of entering a dungeon in Wow; it was a raw, tense experience ( darkness, gore, and depravity of the evil forces). When you cleansed the Den of Evil and the sunlight appears, it wasn’t just a normal rpg victory: you conquered evil (at least, what the game tried to do).
And not only that, but this game launched in a gold era for gaming and Blizzard, so changing things here will not please the fanbase.

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So there goes my last remaining reason to have Battle.net installed. Not only is Blizzard unable to make good games anymore, Blizzard cannot competently re-release the good games it actually does possess within its catalogue.

Blizzard didn’t have to produce a Diablo II remake. But if it was going to do so, I think we all hoped the company would have learned some lessons from its Reforged disaster.

Apparently not. Blizzard seemingly cannot help but mess up everything it touches these days. What a shame.

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Probably because 99.9999% of SJWs are marxists. This move is based on ideology, not profit motive, so no, it cannot be attributed to capitalism.

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yes actually I do, if you don’t think that’s a major selling point of Diablo is the massive gore and violence and satanic symbols etc you’re a clown.

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I kinda agree here. Good ol’ D2 1 to 1 game it would have been great… don’t make the same W3R mistake again

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It is incredibly disheartening to see pseudo woke garbage coming from green text.

Showing a woman’s butt is not graphic sexual imagery. If you think it is, you are immature. That is it. No discussion. You are a child.

Also, seeing this sex negativity from official Blizzard sources as a deflection from genuine concern that the game is not being recreated faithfully is concerning to say the least.

Blizzard needs to raise the standards in leadership. This is not woke. This is not progressive. This is sex negative, corporate woke bullcrap and literally no one wants it.

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this x10000. Seeing misscheetah finally getting absolutely wrecked in an argument is awesome. he/she posts lots of useful info, but you can tell they are a total shill for blizz and will defend literally anything they do. :roll_eyes: zero integrity.

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Adding a couple of placeholders here… and REFUNDED.

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MVPs are other players, not Blizzard employees. They do not represent Blizzard in any way.

If you want to see the actual graphics, go watch the Alpha videos and comment afterwards.

My comment was factual. The game is not rated for sexual content. What a private company does with their game is up to them. Capitalism is capitalism. Vague pixel art vs higher def art may result in some decisions on art work. You don’t have to like it or buy it. Blizz has the right to do what they want with their intellectual property though.

Vote with your wallet if there are not enough sexual elements for you - in a game about killing demons.

You are so new you have no idea what you are talking about at all. I most certainly DON’T back Blizz on a lot of things. You would know that though if you had been around for years. I also don’t bow to the whole crowd who thinks any art edits are somehow made by foes for social reasons. Not everything is a massive political struggle.

even if that 99.9999% thing about SJWs was not completely pulled out of your @ss, that still wouldn’t imply 99.9999% of marxists to be SJWs. You should also probably tell me where in the definition of socialism you see something about censoring gore in video games or anything else, because otherwise it makes the whole thing about socialism look like a vague attempt to use any random crap to strawman your rival political ideology, like i was pointing out. You know, like a SJW, or a snowflake.
“This move is based on ideology, not profit motive”. says who? saying that any corporation’s purpose, and the process driving corporate policies is not to maximize their profits is pretty naive.

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My favorite is “you can revert the graphics” well I can also not spend 40 bucks and still play with the original graphics too.

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I’ll probably be skipping this because I’ve already bought the best version.

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You can hit G and put the original graphics back in D2R. They are not deleting them or removing them.

You can even toggle it in real time and compare every single graphic in game. It is seamless and very cool.

True! You can keep playing the originals on original Bnet just like it is.

You guys (Blizzard) really need a solid win. Everything that has happened over that past few years has really damaged your image, not just with normal people, but with long time fans. You really should just give the fans what they want, a faithful (as close to 100% as you can get) remaster. Yes, some things might need to be brought up to speed, but the art direction of the original in no way needs to be changed.

Satisfaction with long term fans should be your priority, these changes, although not huge, annoy us. We are your fans, we will buy multiple copies of this game to play with our friends, and we don’t like these unnecessary changes.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe there is a huge population of old school diablo fans that really didn’t like the art design of the original and want it changed. If that is the case, I can accept that, but I am fairly certain that is not the case.

Honestly, you should just do a poll, see what the fans have to say. You are concerned about what we think, aren’t you?

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In terms of technology this is an extremely old game that has been de-coded, hacked, and ripped apart for over 20 years. 20 years later, players can now possess all the tools developers work with.

People just hacked the alpha 2 seconds after D2 gained some popularity again. I guarantee there will be a mod that replaces the amazon with the old cgi model from the 90’s. Will I download it? Of course, I don’t want to look at that old lady all day.

The developer artists did a good job with the environments and monsters, so I’ll buy the game for their efforts. The only complaint is the other stuff which the community can fix without blizzard.

Most people liked it I think, but it is not a deal breaker for many.

What DOES need to be fixed in particular for most is the Amazon face. It is just jarring and does not even seem to match her body at all. They said they would look into iterating it but I don’t know if the Devs actually will.

They do. Blizzcon 2018 in particular for the Diablo community was horrible. Then there was WC3R which made everyone very concerned about a D2 resurrection.

It seems they are really sticking to the original game though. What is being debated is the much more detailed graphics and the choices Blizz made. I don’t agree with all the changes, but I do respect the right Blizz has as a company to make adjustments.

"Most people liked it I think, but it is not a deal breaker for many."
It’s hard to say most people, we have no real numbers, that’s why I suggested polling.

Also, the possible fact that “Its not a deal breaker for many” means that most people don’t really like the current art direction, but are willing to settle, which is something you don’t want your fans feeling. Things like this over a period of time make your fans apathetic, leaving you with a dying fan base.

"They do. Blizzcon 2018 in particular for the Diablo community was horrible. Then there was WC3R which made everyone very concerned about a D2 resurrection.

It seems they are really sticking to the original game though. What is being debated is the much more detailed graphics and the choices Blizz made. I don’t agree with all the changes, but I do respect the right Blizz has as a company to make adjustments."

Seems like we can somewhat agree on this. They have the freedom to make whatever game they want, but fans of original games can be stickler’s for detail, and we don’t like unnecessary changes. Blizzard should know this about its fanbase, honestly, why would you do something you know a good portion of your fanbase won’t like?

Again, unless there is some invisible portion of the fanbase that was clamoring for these changes (I have no idea who these people are or even if they exist), it makes no sense to make changes that could put you into the negative when it comes to fan approval.

Basically what I am saying is why make this change when there is absolutely no upside. Yes, blizzard got to express themselves artistically, but that’s not why they are making this remaster, its to make money off of a former beloved game, which is fine. But be true to the game that we love, not half of the way, not some of the way, but as much as you can be.

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You would be pleased to know the Alpha survey had a lot of what you are asking for. Alpha players are not supposed to share screenshots though. I assume the multiple player alpha and any further test phases will also have that sort of detailed survey.

Beyond that, they collect feedback from the forums, reddit, fan sites, streams, etc.

It can be skewed because a lot of the people on those sites self select - as in they care enough to be there, vs players who just play and never go to websites.

I think it is both.

Yes, they want to make money. BUT they also got a huge message after Blizzcon 2018. I think they had planned a D2R already, but the details were not worked out. After WC3R…they certainly got another huge message!

They are trying to stick to the base game as close as they can. The alpha really did feel very very on point.

I do like the idea of attracting a new generation to the fires of hell though. I want to expand the player base, not gatekeep - longevity of games does require new sacrifices to the Lords of Hell! So the idea of appealing to more folks is not bad to me anyway. Not that Blizz tells me what they are doing.

Keeping the rating as M only for gore, blood and violence maybe? High res graphics vs vague pixels do change things a bit.

**"You would be pleased to know the Alpha survey had a lot of what you are asking for. Alpha players are not supposed to share screenshots though. I assume the multiple player alpha and any further test phases will also have that sort of detailed survey.

Beyond that, they collect feedback from the forums, reddit, fan sites, streams, etc.**

It can be skewed because a lot of the people on those sites self select - as in they care enough to be there, vs players who just play and never go to websites."

That’s why a pseudo open poll should be utilized, limited to people with battle.net accounts. Advertise the poll on the battle.net launcher, fans won’t have a say in all changes, only the most contentious. It Annoys me that redditors who may have never even played a Blizzard game can have a say in anything.

"I think it is both.

Yes, they want to make money. BUT they also got a huge message after Blizzcon 2018. I think they had planned a D2R already, but the details were not worked out. After WC3R…they certainly got another huge message!

They are trying to stick to the base game as close as they can. The alpha really did feel very very on point.

I do like the idea of attracting a new generation to the fires of hell though. I want to expand the player base, not gatekeep - longevity of games does require new sacrifices to the Lords of Hell! So the idea of appealing to more folks is not bad to me anyway. Not that Blizz tells me what they are doing."

We are really going this route huh? I am not trying to gatekeep, but I want new players to come in and enjoy the game for what it is/was for the most part. Don’t get me wrong, I can understand UI adjustments and the like. But why would changing the art direction make it more appealing to new players who are ready to experience the Diablo world. I definitely think that Diablo doesn’t really need to change much to attract a new audience. Just give it an upgrade, but keep the same aesthetic, the fires of hell welcome all, but they are not for everybody.

"Keeping the rating as M only for gore, blood and violence maybe? High res graphics vs vague pixels do change things a bit."

I think this point has already been addressed in a previous comment, but anyways not a very strong argument. The M rating covers quite a lot.

“Titles rated M (Mature ) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content, and/or strong language.”

At the end of the day its still a M rating, the fires of hell are definitely not for children, and I don’t want it to be. No Diablo fan would want that.

There is a balance to these things, keeping the soul of the game intact, but allowing enough change to keep things fresh and attract new fans. As stated, UI changes and the like make sense to bring the game into the modern era. However, Diablo is a game many of us have spent 100s of hours looking at, reading, listening to, and will yet spend 100’s more. Diablo has certain qualities in sound, gameplay, story, and art that are fundamental to what it is, and to diverge to much from that is to make something other than Diablo.

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